Take a look at these two English translations. According to James Bentley, Tischendorf was not troubled by the omission of the resurrection in Mark because he believed that Matthew was written first and that Marks gospel was an abridged version of Matthews gospel. this early version of the text, just as it would, perhaps, to the possibility that other But the people supporting the Vaticanus and Sinaiticus say that since Textus Receptus came after these two, many things must have been erroneously added to the texts. Matthew 24/37 are you sure and how sure you are? Ancient manuscripts? What is so important about the KJV being a translation from the Textus Receptus (received text)??? Would the pressure they would have certainly applied to any revision process underway be made to uplift and promote the Bible OR to denounce and reduce the Bibles Power??? WHAT IS HIS NAME? -> Proverbs 8:22 The Lord possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old. The main texts, Sinaiticus and Vaticanus, contradict each other over 3,000 times in the gospels alone, and they disagree with the ' Majority Text' in 13,000 places. It cuts to the heart in a way the other versions never did. So it got past Mark 16:9, but I do not know for certain if it reached 16:20. In the 19th century, almost all Bible translations had a spurious Trinitarian addition at 1 John 5:7. Tyndale? terrible things draw near. And no less so today. A court is not the appropriate place to prove or disprove the authenticity of old manuscripts. check out this documentary by Abduhla Films called Bridge To Babylon In discussion of this codex it is discribed as perhaps the third oldest, but probably has better provenance than the other two. Following is the story of how Tischendorf found the Codex Sinaiticus: Required fields are marked *. Just a thought, but if the Sinai Bible was a fourth century record of the New Testament, and the modern canon came about under Athanasius at around 390AD, then doesnt it suggest that a lot of our modern Bible was filled in by the likes of Athanasius late in the fourth century, just before the text was canonized. (re Luke. The King James and Tischendorf? I am still looking into this. further reading AN INTRODUCTION TO TEXTUAL CRITICISM VOL 1. Any organization that uses the KJV as a baseline English translation for textual criticism can safely be dismissed by anyone looking to take this topic seriously. W N Pickering points out that one of the major thrusts of modern versions is to undermine the authority of Scripture, by the use of enclosing parts of the text in brackets and have (ing) numerous footnotes of a sort that raise doubt about the integrity of the Text. Why dont you do another article comparing all the similarities of the CS with other early manuscripts? Pontius Pilate was governor of Judea at the time of Jesus Christs death. Who is the envisioned recipient of this article? The Sinaiticus and Vaticanus uncials with many other most important Bible manuscripts - Hebrew, Greek, Coptic and Syriac - came from Alexandria." (The International Standard Biblical Encylopedia) Clearly the Alexandrinus Codex is from Egypt. Mark 16:6 And he saith unto them, Be not affrighted: Ye seek Jesus of Nazareth, which was crucified: he is risen; he is not here: behold the place where they laid him. This cannot be an unblemished codex. The above article barely scratches the surface of the difference between the King James Version Bible (based on Textus Receptus) and Codex Sinaiticus. Jesus was hauled before Pilate for the Jewish religious Elite wanted Him dead, because they charged Jesus with blaspemy. That is the nature of deception. However, the two authoritative fourth-century Greek manuscriptsCodex Sinaiticus and Codex Vaticanusboth end with Mark 16:8. Vatican City is the very whore that is drunk with the blood of the Saints. But it seems quite okay and acceptable if we put our own spin on Gods word. Keep studying, kids! Now do this over 5 days for 1 to 3 hours a day and see how much you remember, at the end from the first, second etc days tslks. The First English bible translated from Greek (not Latin) manuscripts was the Tyndale Bible (1525). Therefore human sinful behavior cannot be pinned on a failing of Scripture itself. The textus receptus was essentially a slogan used by the distributors of the KJV after it was error corrected and reprinted on the printing press. https://www.faraboveall.com/015_Textual/SPLIT%20TEXTS_JETS_current.pdf. And remember this is a group of objective people, not just my own thoughts. Silly, utter nonsense spawned by Satans minions. The main texts, Sinaiticus and Vaticanus, contradict each other over 3,000 times in the gospels alone, and they disagree with the ' Majority Text' in 13,000 places. Sinaiticus has 9000 passages differently than Textus Receptus. Please force yourself to reconsider, take time and rethink your position, and seek the TRUTH. https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/102007409#h=22:2-23:524https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/102007409#h=22:2-23:524. re 17. William posts As Rodney King said, Cant we all just get along? Actually at least to me it does seem to be more important to be able to get along than to be right, however right is defined. That is called relativism, a scourge which has infected our culture. From what I read, that gospel goes straight to the point that Jesus was the living Word of God, the only begotten son, and the light to the world. When it comes to a consideration of the authenticity of Siniaticus and Vaticanus, few academics seem to ask some very basic non-academic but practical questions such as: There are likely missing portions on the Codex because they added to the current texts in order to push their dogma and make it more palatable to those they wished to convert. We did not command ityet We bestowed on those among them who believed, their due reward, but many of them are rebellious.. Pilate was used to trouble makers in Judea and he saw and heard a lot of phony messiahs, and many of those were armed to the teeth to try and get rid of Romes power base in Judea. Codex Sinaiticus, also known as "Aleph" (the Hebrew letter ), was found by Count Tischendorf in 1859 at the Monastery of St Catherine on Mount Sinai. It was given to the Vatican from the East and was pretty well hidden away although not totally forgotten, Erasmus in compiling Textus Receptus was told of it but warned of its unreliability and so he ignored it. Any Greek representation of the New Testament is not factual as to the true text. A piece here and a piece there but no even close to a complete speach. Sinaiticus and Vaticanus disagree with one another in more than 3,000 places in the four Gospels alone! Did God speak directly to King James I and the various groups of translators assembled by him to produce the KJV for the English-speaking world??? How come these two were preserved when many thousands of others were not? Then that history was erased, and replaced with the gosple account agreeable to the era? For his services to textual criticism and the understanding of biblical manuscripts, he was granted a Civil list pension in 1872. Craig, thanks for the link to battle of the bible. The woman caught in adultery (John 7:53-8:11) King James Version The real question you must come to grips with is whether Jesus is God incarnate. No one said they were quoteing Joe but passing on what they remembered. Codex Sinaiticus Our Father in heaven, Hallowed be thy name, Thy kingdom come. It is now generally believed that both the Curetonian and Sinaitic manuscripts are extant copies of the old Syriac Gospels dating from the late second or early third century. Sinaiticus contains the Epistle of Barnabas and a part of the Shepherd of Hermas, which don't belong to New Testament's texts. God Bless you all with light to Truth. I believe youll find that no one every spoke like Jesus, because Jesus was more than a man. I found the many negatives, outweigh the few positives.I forced myself to face the truth of this, grew up and have been happy not to look back. This was the greatest moment in thier lives for all there and they would have been really focused on what the ciach had to say,. Most of the epistles are written before the gospels. But I can tell you this; I use the King James Bible because 99% of all the manuscript evidence supports the Textus Receptus that underlies it. The simple reason for the disappearance of most manuscripts and why there are so many small fragments containing excerpts around is that they simply wore out! Chuck said that the reason that many of these older manuscripts survived was because the early church did not trust them and so, they werent used and spared the damage which would have normally occurred to documents in continuous use. The entire journey is based on spirituality, faith and love in God. Also, in Matthew 6:9, Codex Sinaiticus *does* have the phrase who is in heaven (which is omitted as presented above). It is a very important manuscript. . Rome couldnt get rid of all the Bibles which were being mass produced by the protestors the heretics as Rome branded them, so after a time they got busy by subversion and decided it would suit their purpose better if they worked to alter the Text of the Bible from within. Here is Matthew 16:14. The All-Access membership pass is the way to get to know the Bible through biblical archaeology. I didnt want to put it with other translations on my bookshelves lest someone read it unawares and was led astray, but I did not feel comfortable destroying it so I hid it. Want to check this next time you are with friends, turn on a tape recorder, not tell others you have done so. The discipline of Biblical manuscript analysis is mature, rich, and sophisticated. Describes her perfectly. i say that all things will be made clear when Jesus comes back pretty soon. 2 Timothy 4 King James Version (KJV) They knew this. Just like in the 1800s , Europe saw an infiltration into the Seminaries and Colleges by Romes agents to weaken Protestant influence for the ensuing generations and swing them back to Rome (still going on today folks), so too the work of W&H in the late 1800s brought a major shift in the thinking about how scholars should or could go about their work of translation of Scripture. We wont,we will always make asumptions based in what we have and might never been correct. I will always prefer the KJV with all its faults. This debate has been going on for centuries and likely there will always be disagreements as to which is closer to the original Greek autographs. I dont know the history in exact of my great grand parents,how would we know ever about 400 generations ago. Raghaven..Yes then it must be true because you read it here. The term of years of Satans power has been fulfilled, but other . The Codex Sinaiticus is allegedly 800 year older that that, and has had no special preservative treatment or conditions in all that time, yet the parchment condition is fresh, supple and un-oxidised. Compare differences between the King James Version and Codex Sinaiticus. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven. (HINT: The Catholics would burn one at the stake for even possessing a Bible copy back in the day). If we speak of provenance in an art museum, we know where the picture has been since it was painted by the artist. This modified version from 1885 has the name "Revised Version". Did James Tabor help write it? For example the Magna Carta (c.1200 AD) is so frail and desiccated that it is enclosed in a sealed environment, to prevent total disintegration. I find it amazing that you all believe in this nonsense. The textual character of these old texts seem to conform more to the Codex Sinaiticus and Codex Vaticanus than to the Textus Receptus. Codex Sinaiticus says that Jesus was moved with compassion in Mark 1:41. However, he states: Most of the differences are due to the greater accuracy of the NW as a literal, conservative translation. While BeDuhn disagrees with certain renderings of the New World Translation, he says that this version emerges as the most accurate of the translations compared. He calls it a remarkably good translation. Two hundred years after Constantine Tischendorfs birth, questions remain as to the conditions of his removal of Codex Sinaiticus from St. Catherines Monastery. The New Testament still stands alone as the best attested ancient document, period. Perhaps I will have the opportunity of sharing this with you in another article. i have an 1560 geneva bible and 1611 an an 1678 an 1769.. 1829..1841 and also use other revived text bibles. Just wish the world would realize that all organized religions are made up by mankind. That leaves only Matthew 28:19 to support the doctrine of the Trinity. The Codex Sinaiticus (Shelfmark: London, . From the epistles we find the basic Christian beliefs: Christ is the Son of God and His resurrection etc. Siniaticus was pristine because it was not read and loved and cried over for 1400 years. It would enshrine the abominable concept that the church was without the most correct text for 1600 years. A translator that believes can be biased by his believes. Being the oldest and best makes Rome correct in their belief. My mistake 2 Cor 13:14 is in the CS. There can be only one truth among multiple truth claims. Textus Receptus Bible chapters shown in parallel with your selection of Bibles. Now we all know what we have been told about the manuscripts upon which the Textus Receptus was based: they were "The feeblest of manuscript resources" and "Late medieval manuscripts of inferior quality" and so forth.But this collides with what we see in John 6:65-7:16, where minuscule 4 has less corruption than Codex Sinaiticus. Making a case against Christianity based on the integrity of Scriptural reliability is a losing battle. That is in the Sinaiticus, but not in any manuscripts prior to the Council of Nicea. Although the Diatesseron had some Textus Receptus readings in it, it was considered to be corrupted. Those wanting to use the Greek manuscripts needs to consult the fact that these were Yisraelis writing, not Greek and the language would have been written in Hebrew. his words will never pass away ! Christians believe absolute truth does exist. Actually Mark and other gospels is written after the death of Peter and Paul. We simply dont know what to believe anymore!. Modern scholarship generally holds that Mark is in fact the oldest of the Synoptic Gospels, which could cause theological concerns over the omitted resurrection. True followers of Jesus Christ are lead by the power of the Holy Spirit. For obvious reasons, the Textus Receptus is also referred to as the "Majority Text" since the majority (95% or more) of existing manuscripts support this reading. I want to cringe. We know the Catholics hated the Bible then and even today. Textus Receptus is Latin for "Received Text." It was used as the textual base for the vernacular translations that arose during the Reformation period. I am just saying. Ever think possibly he had more than ONE resource ??? Thats pretty much identical to the late, great Chuck Smiths (founder of the Calvary Chapel movement) opinion. It ought to be a foregone conclusion, then, that Sinaiticus has a better text of Revelation 22:10-21 than the Textus Receptus has. Hardly. I went to a lecture give by Dr Cooper on this subject, and his evidence and the surprised response of the British Library staff at the youthful condition of the manuscripts, was very compelling. Biblical quotations corrected on September 18, 2022. 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