[Non-game 1][5] When the NCR occupied the Mojave, it was commandeered to house prisoners on a work-release program. I have no idea if that works, though. The leader of the local Powder Gangers, Eddie, will be killed if one sides with the NCR or can be saved if they help the Powder Gangers. My game is unlucky enough to be severely bugged when it comes to the Powder Gangers so Im real weary now when it comes to something to do with my reputation in game. Each action that gains Fame or Infamy is assigned a set value in the editor, which is added via script: Fame and Infamy (denoted 1 and 0 in the console) are earned by doing helpful or harmful deeds, respectively, to the faction. and our --------------COMPATABILITY-------------- A positive reputation is required to receive the. Then complete quests and earn Fame which will increase from neutral and go up, but only so long as one is wearing that faction's armor. The benefits and drawbacks of any given reputation depend on the group itself. I think you can also start Come Fly With Me just by entering the REPCONN Test Site, without talking to anyone in Novac. This is a very simple mod, all it does is make Joe Cobb and his five Powder Ganger friends associated with the Fiends. ", Fast traveling to this location can result in a group of wild dogs spawning and attacking if the Courier does not have the. [3] This led to deathclaws settling into the quarry and plaguing the northern reaches of Long 15, shutting down caravan traffic to New Vegas. Khans value strength, determination, and resilience. I also play with an alternate start mod, so that helps. Mister Holdout will sell weapons to the player character at an inflated price. No idea if that was really intended, but it feels like a bug. They're hostile to the player for the most part, so they're just asking to get popped. Credits However, any faction that was hostile towards the Courier will remain so, despite the change. You could try wearing a Powder Ganger outfit, sneaking into the building Eddie is in and using a Stealth Boy (the bodyguards and Eddie see through the disguise). Espaol - Latinoamrica (Spanish - Latin America). My game is unlucky enough to be severely bugged when it comes to the Powder Gangers so Im real weary now when it comes to something to do with my . The powder gangers residing at the prison just want freedom and to be left alone while the NCR want control. I completed Run Goodsprings Run and it gave me a Shunned reputation with the NCR. A state-of-the-art subreddit from Vault-Tec. Is Fallout new Vegas The Best in the series? Even if the player character's reputation is neutral, if they have sided with the. Camp Forlorn Hope morale was rebuilt slightly before agreeing to stage the attack on Nelson with Major Polatli (+2). New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Should the player character approach Dawes in disguise, he will notice that they are not an actual Powder Ganger and tell them so. This will knock your infamy up to a level where they won't be hostile to you yet. He can either be convinced to "move on" with 30 Speech skill or killed. Donate doses of either Med-X, Fixer, RadAway (+1 per dose, up to +3 at a time if the maximum amount of multiple doses are given at once). However, he will continue in casual dialogue as long as one has a good reputation with the gang. Two additional entrances are opened during the New California Republic assault at the end of the Powder Gangers' questline. The New California Republic Correctional Facility (commonly abbreviated to NCR Correctional Facility or NCRCF) and known before the war as the Jean Conservancy,[Non-game 1] was an NCR prison located southeast of Goodsprings that currently acts as the main settlement of the Powder Gangers and a staging point for raiding the local area in 2281. Unless this was patched in, then no. Fallout: New Vegas. taking the prison for the NCR or holding the prison for the Powder Gangers. You Have Been Warned. The reputations are listed below in alphabetic order. Camp Forlorn Hope morale was rebuilt decently before agreeing to stage the attack on Nelson with Major Polatli (+4). It worked for me. They pray on caravans and travellers, including you. The Powder Gangers (also referred to as Powder Gangsters by Johnson Nash) are a gang of escaped prisoners operating in the Mojave Wasteland in 2281 . The faction reputation can reset at an unpredictable time. One can also then prompt further dialogue questioning Ulysses why the Marked Men are comprised of both Legion and NCR soldiers working together, despite the two sides normally being enemies, to which Ulysses will talk about how their feelings of abandonment and suffering have united both in a combined hatred. Or alienate them. Completing quests, helping people, and generally making oneself useful will result in accumulating positive reputation points. Worsen the condition of an injured Boomer at the. Quest scripts themselves rarely grant Infamy towards factions, but there are a few which do: A town's reputation determines the player character's treatment by the townsfolk. For Fallout: New Vegas on the Xbox 360, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "Shunned from Mojave Outpost and Vicki and Vance Casino in Primm". you can beam yourself inside the prison by using an outhouse inside (from outside) that you can see from the south part of the prison. If you managed to get yourself vilified, you out of luck. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. There are two cellblocks located within the courtyard. At this point, the player character can choose to either kill Pearl (which will drop their reputation with the Boomers to Vilified) or fulfill their promise. Alternatively, you could acquire an NCR uniform to disguise yourself and try if you can then talk to Dusty or even Andy about their quests. A negative reputation may result in negative attitudes by the citizens and higher prices when trading. Whether or not the Courier has provoked Powder Gangers elsewhere, the Powder Gangers here are not hostile unless the player character has established a negative reputation with the faction overall. The combined effects of the two scales result in an overall reputation that is either positive, neutral, or negative. I've been able to pickpocket the key from the dude at the front gate of the prison (and enter Hidden) then go talk to the guy who would then go to Primm (forgot name) without having to fight the gang, but I did not shot any of them or fight them at Goodsprings, so default rep with them I guess, and no disguise. This happened to me when I was vilified. The jail was understaffed. How do I get to the Boomers without being blown up? make sure you get the booted quest that that will change your reputation to mercifull thug (dunno if they will stop attacking you tho). That way you keep the bonuses of both, more or less. One such gap in the fence is situated between the lookout tower and the visitors center and the other is located almost directly opposite it, along the eastern fence. https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Fallout:_New_Vegas_reputations#Gaining_reputation_points_9. If one follows the I Fought the Law questline, they are given the chance to storm the base with the NCR or help the Powder Gangers defend it against the NCR. Doctors Telling Marjorie that the player "eat[s] people, too" (-1). You lose karma for stealing, but it's more of a personal marker. Broken, bitten, maimed and cut. Great for those who prefer to sling their dynamite than getting up close and personal. But I do like betraying the PGs and assaulting the prison in that one quest though. And if the player character is 'Idolized', they move down the chart to 'Wild Child'. 2 MauiWowieOwie 1 yr. ago Even if the player character is idolized by the Boomers, the doctor will not provide them any medical attention, saying that he needs any supplies left to treat the wounded. Choosing to spread the new power equally across the entire Vegas grid (+12). NVCE changes their appearance. They only have 2 quests to gain relation with them and if you side with Goodsprings it's really hard to even do the second one (not that doing it would make them hate you much less). I pretty much couldnt get in but i killed someone close to that area that had a key so i got in and killed every single thing in there. As part of the first quest mentioned above, an NCR hit squad will approach and warn to improve reputation with the NCR within three days. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Contents 1 Background 2 Interactions with the player character 2.1 Interactions overview 2.2 Other interactions 3 Combat notes 4 Inventory 5 Notable members 6 Bugs 7 Appearances Background Map marker The actual quest to take back the NCRCF is buried within the quests to help the Powder Gangers. All Discussions Screenshots Artwork Broadcasts Videos News Guides Reviews . For specific low-level range values for various factions, see the talk page. Turn in all 3 supply caches and pass the Science check for the irradiated supplies (+2). Once you're past that point there's very little you can do. I am Villified, but no matter how many of them I kill they only stay hostile so long as I'm in combat with them. But yeah, doing Eddie's quests while Shunned will net you fame, but no upgrade in rank. Try it, its a broken quest btw even if you complete it and kill eddie at the last quest thingy "i fought the law" the quest will stay unresolved.. meyers will bug out and the radio message will say you failed :\. I reloaded my last save which I made 2 hours ago :(. However, after hearing his offer, choosing to ignore it will not provoke any altercation. What's the point of being fanatical about something that's overall trivial if the attitude is going to be "Y'know, you should be as obsessive as I am as well as know and remember everything I do." The dialogue option to report dropping the radioactive waste will override the first and Astor will act as if the radioactive waste was dropped while the Legion was still present.). If you talk to the guy at the door he should let you in for a hundred caps or something with a disquise. Leaders There are six factions (Brotherhood, Legion, Khans, NCR, Powder Gangers, and the White Glove Society) that have disguises which alter one's reputation among other factions. Ask questions of Pete about Boomer history and pass a skill check for each positive comment (+2 each). I end up shunned or hated, but I can still enter the NCRCF and do Eddie's quest. Everytime I've done this quest (quite a few times) I've always ended up "Vilified" with the Power Gangers, but in my current play through I've only become "Shunned." Helping them is way better than help good springs. They disappear completely from the storyline after the opening area. Funny / Fallout: New Vegas Analysis Awesome Characters FanWorks Fridge Funny Headscratchers Heartwarming Laconic NightmareFuel Quotes ShoutOut TearJerker Trivia VideoGame WMG YMMV GameBreaker Haiku VideoExamples Create New They're dogs. This location is ideal for player housing, particularly during. For example, if killing a Powder Ganger while wearing a uniform of theirs, it might reset all faction reputations. - posted in New Vegas Discussion: So I became Shunned to the NCR and expected that the next time I ran into one of them I would immediately be attacked, but to my surprise I wasnt. With every faction except Goodsprings, the Boomers and Novac, reputation will reset to neutral. For Fallout: New Vegas on the Xbox 360, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "Can anyone help with Powder Gangers and NCR early on?". I think that the game would have been much better suited if they had replace all the Powder Gangers with random raiders, Eliminated their two missions or at least the option to side with them, and then spent the extra time fixing glitches in the game. For example, if the player character wears Legion armor and kills an NCR soldier, Infamy will be gained, but will be reset to one's prior reputation upon the removal of the disguise. Lie to Heck Gunderson about who took Ted Gunderson when taking him back to Heck (+12). Eddie, the leader of the remaining Powder Gangers, has set up his headquarters in the administration building. There are two things to keep track of: karma and reputation. Points are accumulated by various means. Doing Cooke's quests also nets fame, but no rank up. Wed May 02, 2012 6:08 pm. If the player character fast-travels away from a location where/when they are normally expected to receive scripted Fame or Infamy before the notification pops up (e.g. Espaol - Latinoamrica (Spanish - Latin America). You get a lot more caps if doing the Goodsprings side, 100 caps initially, 150 when you meet Ringo at Crimson Caravan. It's true that Powder Gangers are very useless. Dynamite is only good with perk but for my, I prefer frag or plasma grenades. He is located at Powder Ganger camp south, which is just south of the prison. Securitron J7-82463 here, under the direct authority of New Vegas' sole proprietor, Robert Edwin House. No I did not know, I don't spend my time looking through ALL of the mods. Also I tried a disguise but it didnt work. If that doesn't work, I do ghost town gunfight after the NCRCF. Quests Valve Corporation. Speak to Julie again about donating a certain chem after at least nine doses have been donated, resulting in her mentioning that they now have a surplus of that chem, regardless of whether more is then given, as the dialogue itself is what triggers the Fame boost (+2, maximum of +6, once all three chems are in surplus). The NCR is an equal opportunities employer. As if there's anything in this game that's not incomplete. Be violent enough and fit right in. Persuade the Great Khans to release the hostages and then tell the NCR to honor the agreement to escort them back to. Powder gang merchants will sell to the player character with 1-to-1 exchange rate. Both types of reputation are tracked separately, the combination of which determines one's reputation with any given faction. He is not a Powder Ganger and says he is only staying there to serve out his sentence out of respect to the NCR. I swore that this time around I wouldn't kill any of them, except in the Goodsprings thing, but I just can't help myself from killing every single one of them. But their mines are good tho. I rerolled and did a not so nice guy however. Is this how it should be? There is no real way to fix this on consoles, apart from either restarting or reloading an earlier save, confirmed to happen on both casual and hardcore play modes. People will shoot at you if they see you stealing regardless of Reputation, but if it's just that they should return to normal after three in-game days (so you can just come back later or wait it out). This is where the NCR sent prisoners to "reform" through hard labor. But, you loose a lot of rep with them if siding with Goodsprings. A locked cell contains his "stash," consisting of bottle caps in an ammo container. As part of this quest, bands of Legion assassins will attack the player at, Admiring the purity of the Legion's justice when first accepting. Offer additions to the Boomer school curriculum for the. Just run away if you happen to get in to the fight with them. All trademarks are property of their respective owners in the US and other countries. I Fought the LawMy Kind of TownEddie's Emissary Espaol - Latinoamrica (Spanish - Latin America). That said, the mod can still be started and finished if installed on an ongoing playthrough, with a minor hiccup if the player has already wiped out NCRCF. Support items like the NCR Emergency Radio will also become useless, and faction privileges like the McCarran monorail will be lost. Completing Ghost Town Gunfight should now only make you shunned by the Powder Gangers which is caused by completion of the quest and not the death of the Joe Cobb. Once the Boomers are turned hostile via combat (even after completing Volare! Instead all they do is mouth off to me in dialogue. I can't remember if Shunned reputation is enough to actually trigger a faction hostile-on-sight, though. If the player character has a Liked reputation and helps out enough with the Boomers, they will be offered to raise the. Negative reputation can be earned by things such as killing members of a group, being caught stealing, lying, being rude or treating people poorly, or completing quests for the opposite side. Map All trademarks are property of their respective owners in the US and other countries. Maybe if they hadn't bothered to design the Prison Uniforms or hand place a bunch of empty whiskey bottles around the NCRCF facility they could have deleted the little part in the file that makes ash piles never go away, or they could have improved pathfinding for companions. In cell block B just above the outside entrance, a sign reads "cell block K Z." Headwear is found in articles of matching armor where possible. Trudy is good for food on hardcore and she can have a decent amount of caps. Are there anyways i can earn fame with the powder gangers? Because of that you can still do the Powder Ganger quests. You have Chet and Trudy as vendors for that part of the map. There is only one person known by the name of Joe Cobb in association with the word "gang", and that is Joe Frank Cobb (a.k.a. In other words, while it is possible to move from 'Hated' to 'Sneering Punk', then 'Unpredictable', then 'Dark Hero' by doing more and more good deeds while avoiding bad ones, there is no permanent way to move from 'Hated' back to 'Neutral' or from 'Hated' to 'Idolized.' Please present your passport. There are very few ways but here a re a couple off the top of my head. Press J to jump to the feed. Unlike other items in his inventory, pickpocketing the key will never fail as long as the player character is hidden. I don't think that "Shunned" is enough for them to attack on sight. Why did the NCR think it was a good idea to give convicts dynamite and to send a felon from their jail in California that is known for using explosives to commit crimes to the Mojave jail that was undermanned? New vegas has two settings, rep and hostility. It's a sort of tutorial for the reputation system. Weird. Reputation in Fallout: New Vegas is a measurement of how the different factions in the Mojave Wasteland perceive the player character. Positive reputation yields the following: The military order is quite a bit demanding when it comes to establishing one's reputation with them. Please re-enable javascript to access full functionality. If you join them it is either an early grave, or hatred by everyone (bye bye Vegas!) BUt that was only after I had only killed the powder gangers in good springs and a 2-3 more on the way between Primm and NCRCF. I recently started a new play through of Fallout New Vegas, and i wanted to do some of the powder gangers quests because i had never done them before. Later down the line you will be making amny choices that end up affecting your reputation with various factions. Krystal Wilson. Yeah, but given the circumstances the NCR are serving as the marshals, troopers and governor therefore they would have the power to pardon and deputize at their own discretion. The player character may receive discounts with merchants, provoke attacks from hired thugs, or simply be treated differently. Unless provoked they will not attack you yet. New California Republic Correctional Facility, NCR Correctional Facility terminal entries, Warden's Terminal, Guard transfers to the east, Fallout: New Vegas Official Game Guide faction profiles, Fallout: New Vegas Official Game Guide Collector's Edition Tour of the Mojave Wasteland. He will aggro as you leave but you can just repeat until you can side with the NCR. NCR Correctional Facility They are introduced in Fallout: New Vegas as a large group of escaped convicts running amok on the I-15 highway area, harassing the small towns of Nipton, Goodsprings, and Primm. You keep the Trudy, the bartender, and Doc Mitchell alive, so thats a plus. I think with the NCR what people are saying is right: Shunned isn't enough for them to shoot on sight. [Non-game 1][7][Non-game 2]. You currently have javascript disabled. Tai Scott. But if you help Good Springs you get a handful of caps and well nothing else except now you have to battle your way everywhere since the Powder Gangers hate you and for what? Joined: Sat Jan 20, 2007 6:58 pm. In cell block B, the Courier can find Carter, a small-time trader, who has set up shop in the cell block. On the road northwest of the facility are six signs that read "NOTICE: Hitch hikers may be escaped prisoners" with the, The NCR Correctional Facility is based on the real life location of, Each of the Powder Ganger snipers have an entry for. Unresolved: Release in which this issue/RFE will be addressed. Side with powder ganger for profit ?it's nope for me tho. Specific consequences of reputation within towns include: Scripted instances of town Infamy include: Impressing the reclusive gun-toting tribe is an art. But it is a difficult quest for low level characters. I've done the goodsprings side many times and still did powder gangers quests and walked freely through their territory. To exit the facility one must jump over the fence again using the guard tower stairs, use fast travel, or pickpocket the key from Dawes through the fence. Fame is positive and Infamy is negative. Technical Assignment is the defense of New Vegas. With the exception of the White Glove Society, Great Khans and Powder Gangers in Vault 19, all factions will attack the player with a negative reputation. How do you get the key to open a set of doors in sunset sarsaparilla headquarters? Another advantage is that this mod causes less bloat, by altering less entries. NCR hit squads will warn the player character to change their reputation with NCR within three days or they will come after them, trying to kill the player character. A Powder Ganger wearing a guard uniform stands by the door. [Non-game 1][6] The inmates were tasked with maintaining a railroad alongside the Long 15 under military supervision, keeping the vital link between the Boneyard and New Vegas alive. Huh. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. I think you'd still be able to do the quests for them at the NCRCF, and the Vault 19 Powder Gangers aren't affected by your reputation with them. Flatter Caesar by asking how to serve "the mighty Caesar" further when talking again after dealing with the, Teach Decanus Severus at Cottonwood Cove how to make, Defeat the two slaves in the arena during. The one exception is the Brotherhood of Steel: Only Mister Sandman works, as even silenced weapons and C-4 will cause the Brotherhood to turn hostile. Our Fallout New Vegas Game Guide includes a walkthrough across this. There are upwards of 40 empty whiskey bottles lying around in the prison yard. Best. Complete Andy and Charlie by passing the 60. Best way to do their storyline is to do it before the goodsprings quest or get everything for the people of goodsprings and have them kill the powder gangers. I know there are missions you can get from them at the NCRCF, but I get shot on site. The minimum reputation required for each range are: There is no way to remove reputation points from either scale, except for the NCR, Legion, and Freeside: Beyond that, any positive or negative reputation with a given faction cannot be removed, only offset by a larger Fame or Infamy value. In both of these cases, the entrance remains locked from the inside, however. They do shot you on sight because they are powder gangers. gamespot.comgiantbomb.commetacritic.comfandom.comfanatical.com, Privacy PolicyCookie SettingsDo Not Sell My InformationReportAd. The Powder Gangers, also known as the Powder Gangsters, are an antagonistic faction in the Fallout universe. If any neutral (black in table above), but positive reputation holds the majority, followed by a 50, If any neutral (black in table above), but positive reputation holds the majority, the Legion will also provide various items within supply boxes outside of. If one's reputation with the NCR is above neutral, he will reply that the Courier has done a great deal in a short time and advises them to ask around. fast-traveling away from HELIOS One after activating ARCHIMEDES before the notification of NCR Infamy has time to pop up), the player character will not receive the boost/penalty until the next time one travels to that location. You know, what you are talking about was actually intended to be in the game but was cut. Warden's terminal I never saw much reforming around here, myself. Rebuilding to a neutral reputation status (black on table above) will allow for Cass to be recruited as a companion again, despite her possible angered departure beforehand which caused her to leave. Other than it being the starting area of the game it's pretty boring imo. However, Carter and the Powder Ganger bodyguards in the warden's office will still be hostile. Ref ID If you manage to kill somebody while sneaking, your relation do not suffer. Forever hated, lacking food, warmth, and sanity? and they're playing poker! Chet can actually store some good crafting parts, some rarer mods, and for some reason I often see him keeping around a bunch of Caravan cards. The largest post-nuclear nation state offers plenty of opportunities for good people to shine and brutal retaliation to its enemies. To not get vilified, do not kill every powderganger you encounter. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Short of either eliminating them entirely or using console commands, probably not. This mod only alters a single entry, the Goodsprings Powder Ganger faction, and it only alters one setting of the entry. 1K. Bribe him with powder ganger disguise on you. I thought being "shunned" toward a faction would result in them attacking me on site? Anyone know if this is supposed to happen or does it depend on how many Powder Gangers you yourself actually kill during the quest? He can unlock the door for a price of 100 caps. Powder Gangers love to hold grudges. All rights reserved. You can have minimum rep and some factions wont attack you provided you did a couple of good things for them (off the top of my head I think you can even be vilified and provided you didnt shoot anyone they'll just be really rude to you.) If they are wearing Powder Ganger clothing, Dawes will still talk to them and accept a bribe, but he will turn hostile as the player character gets closer. Blew up the monorail, but failed to frame a. They can kill him without incurring the wrath of the other gang members and enter the facility. kill sh t heads for early game karmaand no body can touch my sweet Sunny Trudy sandwich. They are going after the wrong objective. Still, the bug you're talking about does exist. Also, once the reputation of 'Wild Child' is earned, there is no ability to change it at all. *shrugs*. Negative reputation yields the following: The nomadic army from the East is notoriously hard to impress, but incredibly easy to offend. NCR Correctional Facility One can also then prompt further dialogue questioning Ulysses why the Marked Men are comprised of both NCR and Legion soldiers working together, despite the two sides normally being enemies, to which Ulysses will talk about how their feelings of suffering and abandonment have united both in a combined hatred. Using their outfit with bad reputation doesn't work, the unnamed Powder Gangers leaves you alone, but the named ones (Dawes, Eddy, etc) will still turn hostile. I wouldn't bother. Wearing faction armor can be used to kill members of an opposing faction without gaining Infamy with that faction. Saying Nipton "got what was coming to them" when first accepting the aforementioned quest from Vulpes (+1). Working on the Chain Gang is a Powder Ganger-centric quest mod designed to begin in the early game, when the player is being introduced to the chain gang, and ends in the midgame. Successfully assisted Hardin in replacing Elder McNamara as Elder of the Mojave Brotherhood of Steel with himself, and therefore did not assist McNamara in his own tasks (+4). [1][2] The Powder Gangers became a scourge on the inhabitants of the region, attacking caravans along Interstate 15 and stealing supplies from settlers and workers. A positive reputation may yield positive dialogue, discounts from vendors, and even free gifts from wandering citizens. Some will make certain people hate you, and some will allow certain people to trust you. Wear the Powder Ganger armor. Exploring the Mojave: Southern New Vegas 44 Cottonwood Cove 45 Exploring the Mojave: Western New Vegas 46 Exploring the Mojave: From Westside to Jacobstown 47 Jacobstown 48 Finishing the Outskirts and Claiming the Remnants Power Armor 49 Freeside Old Mormon Fort 50 Atomic Wrangler 51 The Kings School of Impersonation 52 The New Vegas Strip Hostile is different. The Followers respond well to charity and acting in the interests of the common wastelander. All of these will be compatible with this mod. The Version table provides details related to the release that this issue/RFE will be addressed.