best rules of thumb is deworm your goats before breeding them and if need to be dewormed while expecting I suggest Ivomec or Safeguard. If you don’t have a problem with parasites, and you keep a close eye on your herd, you can … This just shows you how useful it is for us all to discuss any type of wormers, vitamins, minerals, feed supplements, etc. with what I have read, I would only use valbazen as a last resort. I too have noticed less worms in fecal counts at that rate. Even after that a goat can stil decline. Do not overdose. I don't know if any of you remember our pregnant doe Pepper. If drenches are misused and result in chemical residues in goat meat and milk products that exceed the Maximum Residue Limits, Australia’s valuable goat-export markets can be jeopardised. I have used it on young juniors and bucks all the time. Should not be used in the first tri-mester of pregnancy, in case your doe has bred back. This article will cover a variety of subjects which keep coming up, making it clear to this writer that goat producers lack essential information on the topics. Valbazan should not be used unless you know no one is pregnant. She did not abort per se (found no fetus, afterbirth or anything but blood), but her vaginal area swelled and protruded, and she started dropping a bit of blood for a few days. Remove the needle after drawing from the bottle and shoot right in the mouth. However, the infections may develop resistance to cydectin if overused due to its similarity to ivermectin. Please note that the dosages for goats is sometimes much more than what it says on the label, if you underdose, you are wasting the wormer and helping the worms to build up resistance. She suddenly seemed to be aborting and as I began to look at our goat health log AND read the reports on Cydectin, I suddenly realized that this may have been the cause of her troubles. I'm more inclined to use it 1 cc per 25 pounds because this is what most people have reported as the effective dosage. Blood and milk samples were collected from the ewes and blood samples was collected from their nursing lambs in order to determine the … My vet prescribed us to give 2x the sheep dosage. you must worm it with soemthing like ivermectin, or valbazen, or cydectin.. safeguard would work in a pinch.. and may be enough to save it. we give our goats. I know you don't do the does and kids at the same time but at what age do you think it is safe to worm a kid? I had given her 5 cc's of Cydectin orally three days before the trouble began. I have a doe who just puts all she has into the milk bucket, and I cant keep weight on her while she is milking. Safe-Guard/Panacur Suspension (10% or 100 mg/ml): the label dose in goats is 5 mg/kg, but a 10 mg/kg dosage is recommended. At 10 mg/kg, withdrawal time is 16 days meat and 4 days for milk. I dont have a problem with worms so I can wait to deworm. so it must be somewhat safe ?Someone correct me if I am wrong please. Yes you can use it on kids, but I would not worm both at the same time. Just my opinion. Can cause birth defects and death. Per my vet, you can use the pour on for cattle as an oral for goats at 1ml per 20lbs of body weight. Then when I get ready to breed will use cydectin until kidding if I need to worm. Ive got 2 lactating does 1 buck and 3 wethers. of body as outlined on the manufacturers label. For cydectin, (yes, you give this orally too) give sheep the cattle dose (1cc per 50#). One Barber pole worm alone can lay between 1,000 and 6,000 eggs per day. I wait until I see a reason to worm them. per 110 lbs of goat. The dosage rate is very narrow and treating the mom with the correct dose could affect the kids more harshly. i am told in my area by reputable breeders that goat wormer here isnt good enough. Goat dose: Oral Cydectin- given orally 1cc per 20-25 lbs. Add 1 day for each additional day the drug is used (e.g. Needless to say, we had a vet at the ready just in case. Cydectin and Ivermectin are in the same class of dewormers. It's rarely more than the carrier. Administer 1 mL per 11 lb (1 mL per 5 kg) body weight into the mouth of the sheep, using any standard drenching equipment. You give valbazen right after kidding because you know they aren't pregnant at that moment, humans aren't immediately using the milk, and it covers more than Ivermectin. Just my opinion. Especially in an expecting doe. can you worm a nursing doe with valbazen? The reason im asking is i need to worm them and i dont have $75.00 for wormer that treats lung worm. I have never had a problem with it. I worm with valbazan the day a doe kids. At 1 cc per 20 pounds. ALL goats *will* have worms, wether or not you find eggs - there are many life stages that are not producing eggs. You can get a Generic Ivermectin injectable from Jeffers Livestock.com . There are many types of worms, your med needs to be specific to the type of worm you have IF you have a wormy goat. I suggest taking 6 fresh nannieberries from your goat to a vet that does fecal testing for worms. I do the same as Brandywine with the same results except I use iver when breeding and prego only because I have had better luck with iver than cydectin in my area , I have also gone as high as 1 ml per 10 lb on wethers with known tapeworm problems with no known problems from the goats they were about 50lb at the time and I did not take them off feed as I usually do when worming. ( Injectable Moxidectin ) Dosage is 1 ml. If you don't have it, then wait on it. If I'm not mistaken, it does not kill tapeworms, so a person would need to use a different wormer for tapeworms. Don’t be afraid to … Please don't fall into the trap that if you give wormer to your goat, that in the milk is the actual wormer in enough of it's orignal form to worm, or to treat her kids or us. Give all wormers orally to sheep and goats. However, you can add Black Oil Sunflower Seeds (BOSS) to grain, beet pulp, and Diamond V yeast to try to add the weight on. Give 1 ½-2 times the sheep or cattle dose. I was wondering if i can use Dectomax as a viable wormer for my goats? Posted by GoatWorld on January 14, 2001 at 10:55:15: Okay I've got a question/observation here... Over the last couple of months, I've been reading some different posts and information about using Cydectin pour on for cattle as a wormer - orally on goats. They kill the worms, that is all. Check dose rates and equipment before drenching. GOAT RAMBLINGS. Works well on barber pole worm which is what would be causing the anemia you are seeing in their eye checks. So I'm curious to hear what some of you have experienced with using Cydectin, the dosages you are using and if you have had the same reaction as did Pepper. Especially in an expecting doe. I order the Cydectin for sheep through Jeffers on-line. Jon, with what I have read, I would only use valbazen as a last resort. Welcome Guest. So I first worm one then about a week later worm the other. Cydectin is good but expensive. than Cydectin. Valbazen was taken off the listed uses just a few years ago, probably due to misuse. Apparently there have been a few cases of people reporting their does suddenly aborting from this. Ranch Granny raising and showing Nigerian Dwarf Goats, RH Farms Boer, Nubian, LaMancha Goats Suffolk cross & Dorper Sheep. You can give this cattle wormer to goats orally due to the goats motabolisim being so high it works better orally. I will usually get some fecals done when they are around 2 months old if I start seeing the kids getting a little bellied or rough coated. CYDECTIN Injectable has been formulated specifically for subcutaneous injection in cattle and should not be given by other routes of administration. But if an individual has a personal preference to administer moxidectin orally to goats, then the sheep oral drench at a 2X dose (0.18 mg/lb; 0.4 mg/kg) should be given. IF YOUR GOAT NEEDS DEWORMING. Subcutaneous injection can cause transient local tissue reaction that may result in trim loss of edible tissue at slaughter if animals are slaughtered within 35 days after treatment. I use 1 cc per 20 pounds. But the topic that seems to be surfacing recently is use of Cydectin on pregnant does within the last month of their pregnancy. Last time my vet was out (and yes, he DOES make house calls for goats), he checked their eyelids and gums and said he believes I've finally gotten through my "worm problem" that I had when using Safeguard. Modern wormers are extremely safe (except levamisole). 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