I ever wondered what if one of these TSA screeners or even a LEO get jumped in the Employees parking lot or else where and their uniform stolen?. Crew members who miss the ship should contact the ship's Agent who will be at the port (the address and phone number are always in the Princess Patter, a daily newsletter for our guests). Most crew have known for YEARS NOW that the TSA has done a piss-poor job of screening. 0 Instead it should focus on how TSA has become more relaxed and lazy at doing their jobs and are short staffed and dont have officers to man the KCM station so everytime someone gets randomed they are throwing a pissy fit about having to walk over. Also, according to you, pilots don't have to because "." does this mean pilots can't do exactly what yiu allege FAs are doing? It gets Americans used to standing in line while goons grope you - welcome to our increasing police state. I am a U.S. airline pilot, and while disappointing, this development was not unexpected. We should not take a step backward. One who will force change for the better. The more that original mission is replaced by "catch and imprison people carrying contraband" the less it makes sense to ignore the protections afforded under the Fourth. Wasting TSA time and resources that should be used with someone else. This is not a U.S. government site. I do agree that some Flight Attendants have ruined it a lot by doing wrong but if they cancel the program and don't provide an alternative you'll see the number of Flight Attendants dropping drastically because none of us would go stand for 3-4 hours in TSA and then at the gate without getting paid. Im flight crew @ ORD. If being a part of a society with all of its problems is too much, there is no TSA screening for general aviation. 0000003052 00000 n Q:I have a SSSS on my boarding pass or seat request card, what do I do? after being told you got a random. TSA is out of controltheir job is to prevent a 9-11but today they are covid mask enforcers, DEA agents, uniform police etc etcKCM was paid for and pushed in by ALPA with alpa duesthe F/A's got in for free and ruined it. 0000002043 00000 n All rights reserved. Zero??? EffectiveFriday, September 6, 2019, the requirements are: Effective August 27, 2019, KCM-authorized enhancement to Unpredictable Screening Procedures (USP) will be enabled. You probably didn't pay too much attention to this class in training because you had 30 minutes sleep the night before because of the party/orgy but somehow managed to barely pass the multiple choice "test" anyway. The third most common is customer service on 10.7% of resumes. They are picked up and dropped off from the ramp. I don't know if a single checkpoint which excorts you directly to screening. As a result of having the FAA certificate, they are allowed to use the KCM lines. And if I run out of duty day because I've been standing in line, oh well. I'm a flight attendant with 34 years seniority. Bag restrictions are in place for the 2022 season. Sorry the rule applies if you don't like it then leave. who cares..I pay TSA people out of my taxes to keep a 9-11 from happening again. So, like with just about everything else good, a few ruin it for the majority. The people being caught with contraband are both flight attendants and pilots. The fact that some flight attendants may feel differently does not change reality. So, like with just about everything else good, a few ruin it for the majority. 2023 PlanePeople. To check up-to-date regulations, prices of extra luggage, an exhaustive list . The vast majority of flight attendants are dedicated professionals, but unfortunately there have been too many examples in the news of flight attendants trying to smuggle drugs through KCM. Get mad at your (and my) own work group. And those are not small. I think the KCM program is complete bullshit. They should just permanently ban the violators from KCM. So it's not that they don't understand the reputation-restricted nature of items; it's that they have the rep and still can't buy the items. Crewmembers are subject to a federal background check and fingerprinting as a result of 9/11. Unaccompanied Baggage. Once you arrive at the boarding gate and your pass has not been properly marked by the TSA, you will be sent back to the passenger screening checkpoint for proper screening. Please remember you said this when YOU have a medical emergency or a general emergency (ie. Why not stop all cars on the highway and search for drugs? Meanwhile I have to show my employer issued ID, plus scan a TSA issued barcode identifying me and a 2nd Government issued picture ID (a 3rd ID not in uniform). Special Use Airspace. We will just have more delayed flights. If you did, you wouldn't have made such an inept comment. Packages large enough to smuggle a sufficient quantity of drugs show up on X-rays or via manual searches. It would make better sense to just have a baggage scanner at each KCM checkpoint but eliminate the need to X-ray scan our bodies. When you are selected for random, at Denver for instance, you are told to go to random screening. Flight attendants never should have been included. I have a problem with the guy with the neck tattoo making $18 bucks an hour that moves in and out of security without a second look telling me, a retired army officer with a top secret security clearance that I need more scrutiny. TSA doesn't screen for drugs. Known Crewmember Program Information The National Air Transportation Association (NATA) and NATA Compliance Services (NATACS) is pleased to offer the Known Crewmember Program (KCM ) to certain Part 135 and Part 125 air charter pilots. "Y'all fucked around and found out". If you combine all the flight attendants and look at the numbers is it even close to 1% of crew members doing this? Yes, I flew this week. Effective March 31, 2022, the TSA will require KCM eligible crewmembers to scan a KCM-issued barcode card when utilizing a KCM access point. Please follow TSA instructions and do not attempt to resolve the issue with transportation security officers, as they are unable to rectify system failures or denials. A flight attendant, like a pilot has the ability to go through KCM by scanning their KCM badge, flashing their badge as you say to verify the screen matches the badge in front of them, and showing an additional verification of ID, passport or FAA airman card. Have a little fun with this!!! While we do try to list all the best miles and points deals, the site does not include all card companies or credit card offers available in the marketplace. I am prepared to share more, IF the system does not change. Yes, we expect, when we get to kcm that we will just be able to walk through and it is a disappointment when we cant. Maybe pilots should stop bringing their guns to work. I was then forced to go through the x-ray scanner, and I was still flagged as they said the zipper on my uniform was a problem and then I had to stand there and be patted down in front of everyone, it was infuriating. Once you receive the barcode card, follow the instructions on the back to register it into the KCM system. Enjoy screening! TSOs are directed toadvisecrewmembers utilizing the KCM access points of the following procedures that arenotallowed. Your password can't be a commonly used password. I've always been concerned they let them into known crewmember from day one. Today's airline management and unions only care that the males can wear the female uniforms, makeup, tattoos, or fingernail polish, because it keeps the "price down". My favorite is from all these so called pilots . This is going to cause more time people wait in line and people already hate it when crew members arrive late to the aircraft. I said I'm not concerned with passenger volume or wait times. 5The Known Crew Member program enables TSOs to positively verify the identity and employment status of flight-crew members who have joined the program and provide expedited access to the sterile area of the airport for properly identified and verified, uniformed crewmembers. Adding searches of gate personnel and aircrew adds around 5% to the number of searches. KCM is Accessible Only for "Active" Crewmembers. Flight attendants have been the issue with attempting to smuggling things through KCM. Items Prohibited from Federal Facilities: 4 An Interagency Security Committee Standard List of Prohibited Items 4.0 Lists of Prohibited Items The items that are prohibited in Federal facilities include any item prohibited by any applicable Federal, State, local, and tribal law and/or ordinance, as well as firearms, dangerous weapons, : ). Not claiming the new policy will affect my trips, only that TSA has major staffing issues at certain airports. I highly doubt it but they wont release the exact numbers they give vague statements so they can grab more power. endstream endobj 81 0 obj <>/Size 53/Type/XRef>>stream You dont have flight attendants so have no special procedures during flight. I guarantee if you're a flight attendant reading this you've said "oF cOuRsE I diD!" Imagine having to go through security and adding extra unpaid time to your job every time you went to work. Completely agree. You also clearly dont know what youre talking about if youre suggesting to not screen pilots. Maybe that would deter them? Imagine getting upeset that people smuggling narcotics are getting caught. Too bad a few more here can't grasp the insight you just provided for them. Its simply aggravation when you have to wait on a slow ass employee bus then drag your bag to security and here an offer say You wanna try your luck with a dumb ass grin on their face. Also when is the last time you saw a TSA agent screened when going through a checkpoint . I WILL share my information when the time is right - IF things do not get better for us working crew who - HAVE ALREADY - been put through multiple screening processes to ensure we were safe enough to serve the public on an aircraft. I have PreCheck and Ive waited at least 30 minutes several times between April and October this year. If they think after 4 years of school, $100k in training, another 4 years of grinding time as a CFI, after finally becoming a airline pilot that I would even know where to score these drugs then they must think I'm way cooler than I actually am. CBP is a little different here but TSA is definitely a lot of entry level type people just looking at a x ray machine doing what they were trained, like robots. 0000006114 00000 n The real issue is if you wanted to smuggle something, you would just throw it away if you got random or give it to someone else to try to take it through. Will you diffuse the bomb and save the day? But only if you're nice. What am I hoping to accomplish by sharing this information? They are "consensual" in name only, and that bending of the usual prohibition of unwarranted search is justified only because their primary purpose is to stop terrorists from taking weapons onto planes. As it is, the random screenings have increased exponentially - to the point where crew members are tempted to go through the pre check line anyway to avoid an extra step of waiting for someone to tell you to go there. TSAL may provide the same; subject to advance arrangement made known at least 48 hours before departure. They set their feelings aside and DO the right thing when the chips are down! Scissors with blade length less than 4 inches . That's because you unhinged exmilitary guys are a threat. It's the easiest post. First of all your name makes you sound like a racist, secondly I dont remember seeing any articles in approximately the last decade of any pilots smuggling drugs through security. About AFA | If there is to be no special consideration for a FA then there should be none for pilots. Real professional comment on your part. Our frustration has absolutely nothing to do with entitlement. Doesn't my ID matches the same face and picture of myself in their laptop database? There have been reports of pilots caught with weapons when they get randomed. Hopefully, this is thought out carefully, or there will be delays because crewmembers will be held up at security checkpoints. Therefore, KCM eligible crewmembers are required to understand these KCM Rules for Use and comply with these rules while using the KCM access points. Q. Perhaps we should make it easy for flight attendants to get to the aircraft too? Hmm, your story sounds fishy. Push through to the front each and every time you clear TSA. Now there's a delayairline management won't like that idea. A 14 year old girl flew coast to coast solo, followed by her father, an airline captain in another plane. You can get more details about them at CBP's prohibited and restricted items list.10. I don't really care if literally the whole crew, all my fellow passengers, and TSA are all smuggling drugs on every flight so long as I get where I'm headed. 0000007899 00000 n These include cultural goods, wild fauna and flora and products derived from these, vegetables and plant products, weapons and ammunition, medicines, tobacco and alcoholic beverages. While I havent seen the document myself, this has allegedly been outlined in a Known Crewmember update, following a meeting with TSA Administrator David Pekoske. Second, customers are always disappointed when a crew member steps to the front of a line. However, keep in mind it is not just F/A's who have been known to smuggle items or take advantage of the benefit. According to Aero Crew News, in 2023 the Known Crewmember Program (KCM) will be replaced by a new program branded as Expedited Crew Access (ECA). Therefore, we recommend that all Flight Attendants abide by the following rules to protect your ability to participate in the Known Crewmember program: As a reminder, KCM is accessible only for "active" crewmembers. While you have no idea what its like going through security as many times as we do with our heavy bag, etc, as many times as we do, it is actually quite frustrating to walk up to kcm and be randomed 2/3 of the time. Also keep in mind that when returning to active status there will be a delay in updating your status to active which may result in your inability to use KCM access. The ship began its fateful voyage on November 7, 1872, sailing with seven crewmen and Capt. Protective Security Officer (PSO)is a member of a protective security force and an element of a security post who has the training, equipment . Youre right though, losing KCM is the least of their problems; however, Full disclosure- Im a flight attendant, and its frustrating to lose this privilege because of crew members who dont follow the rules. Seems crazy to punish the vast majority of people because a few bad apples. Instead of addressing their mess, they are looking to SHOW how they are making changes to "Protect the public" by using us crew as an example. No more shoes or belts to remove. Pilots are not easily replaced, flight attendants are. In the meantime, random screenings through the program will continue to increase, to minimize the number of prohibited items being brought through security. When youre randomly checked five or six times in a row, its easy to cop a tude. 1) Its pretty insulting to trash the time & money spent. Never said I don't care about the passenger. It takes all of us to to fly passengers. xbbbg`b`` / To my knowledge its not that many. Yes, I am furious. Your feedback is important in helping us keep our community safe. My favorite is from all these so called pilots . No jumping in front of the line ( I always commute in polo shirts ). Now pilots are going to be harassed over non-compliant 3-1-1 liquids. It is suggested that you print your pass prior to entering the sterile area. Weren't we all background checked by FBI and other Federal Agencies to be issued this ID ? Steve - Did you fly this past year? An automated enhancement to random screening/USP has been enabled in the KCM system. Dont worry about that connecting flight in Denver thanks. If you are a crew member who, even ONCE, brought a firearm illegally to work, you should be randomly screened for LIFE (even if you only did it once). Get ready for crew members to be cutting in front of you everywhere ! The KCM system uses a secure connection to communicate with the participating airlines crewmember database to determine the eligibility and employment status of the crewmember. Things have gotten so bad, I am ready for a fight. On top of missing birthdays, anniversaries, holidays, special occasions etc. All rights reserved. Backpacks (including clear backpacks), hard-sided coolers (regardless of size) and bags larger than 16 x 16 x 8 inches are NOT permitted at Wrigley Field.Other bags (such as wallets, purses, drawstring bags, fanny packs, lunch bags, briefcases and soft-sided coolers) smaller than 16 x 16 x 8 inches in size are permitted. Crewmembers are also subject to random inspection anywhere after security including onboard the aircraft before departure. While prohibited and restricted items may sound the same, there is an actual difference - prohibited items must never be sent in the post, while restricted items may be sent in the post, but restrictions will apply. The neck tattoo guy isn't. Do exactly the opposite. Its not just flight attendants fault khaki pants and white sneakers boy. You have successfully joined our subscriber list. The way I type indicates that I'm a bum and have a busted vehicle? The Airlines and the TSA needs to punish the people that commit the crimes, and not just put out a blanket change that punishes the 99.9% of the pilots and flight attendants that follow the rules. Known Crewmember - MyKCM Login Known Crewmember TM The Known Crewmember (KCM) website allows crewmembers to register a barcode to go through security checkpoints seamlessly. Failure to follow the instruction provided by the TSO may result in action by the TSA, which may include a loss of KCM privileges for that crewmember. If a pilots wanted to do something bad they could, weve seen it with Malaysian airlines pilots taking that flight down. I say some because there are agents, pilots, and flights that don't clear security at all. "First responders" L.O.L. Check it out its in the Pilot Wives Page or on KrewRestKaren. I'm sorry but I simply do not want to allow anyone to be able to conduct any illegal activity via aviation; the drug crisis in the US is horrific and anyone that wants to protect their personal privileges to allow someone else to profit and kill others should simply not have those privileges. A: No. That's Have anyone seen how TSA Employees (as well as LEOs )gain access to the secured sterile areas of any of our nation's airports around the country? I am sorry to say but sometimes FA and Pilot take advantage of the KCM and sorry to say these but sometimes you also show up late to flights when getting coffee. He clearly doesnt do this on the day yo day and sounds dumb. Must not be in possession of any TSA-prohibited items, weapons, or firearms. Crew members may not transit the KCM portal with any TSA prohibited items. A: No. There should be employee TSA entrance, no sense of having crews who show up last minute, which is understandable not having an employee entrance. trailer I'm guessing there are very few prohibited items discovered during random screening. They're the offenders over and over. I have. It was thought up and the Airline pilots Union and not he Flight attendants union. Some categories of people are exempt from the normal security process after identity and background checks (though they are still subject to random checks), such as flight crew, some senior government officials with security details, police officers who are required to fly armed (this isn . TSA might not be perfect but I would rather have them then not. Encourage your airline to be more stringent in hiring, join the hiring team. KCM does not exempt a crewmember from complying with these additional security measures. The simple reality is that pilots have FAR more to lose than flight attendants if they risk their career at a KCM checkpoint, and therefore they deserve a higher level of trust. A:Authorized crewmembers traveling with a printed boarding pass or seat request card are subject to the TSA Secure Flight (SF) vetting system the same as passengers. There are 24,000 flight attendants just at my airline. They also let a passenger through a week ago with a razor blade. So much so, that I usually just go to security line. Ok, back to your BarcaLounger. At most: I would like to be seen as a whistle blower. Money and Other Monetary Instruments I have pre check and clear. KCM is a risk-based security program. I am flight crew, and for all flight crew here talking about going to the end of the line, taking your sweet time to delay the flight, etc.youve got it wrong. You don't and that's ok because the flight attendants do. Reddit - Dive into anything. How many pounds of illegal drugs have TSA agents detected and confiscated since their inception? Thank you for listening to ALL my pain points. * link https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/06/02/411423341/head-of-tsa-reassigned-after-tests-reveal-security-failures, you tsa guys are cluelessspend a day in ben gurion airport (TLV) and learn what it takes to prevent a 9-11. A flight attendant like a pilot, goes through random drug tests. Security is an illusion there is no reason to subject those flying the airplane to TSA checks. But of course, they would have to pay them more. Then there are the handful who do things they shouldn't do, that are making it a lot harder for everyone else. FAA MIS REPORTS DUE MARCH 15, 2023 - click, FAA PILOT RECORDS DATABASE DEADLINES - click, Flight School Security Awareness Training, Twelve-Five Standard Security Program (TFSSP), Private Charter Standard Security Program (PCSSP), Flight Training Security Program (FTSP) - formerly AFSP, DCA Access Standard Security Program (DASSP), Full All-Cargo Aircraft Operator Standard Security Program (FACAOSSP), Pilot Records Improvement Act (PRIA) of 1996. International Jet Aviation Services, Inc. Springfield Aircraft Charter and Sales Inc. Airbrock Management and Charter Services Inc. REAL ID enforcement deadline extended to 2025, IMPORTANT: Regulatory Anti-Drug & Alcohol Program Reminder. Alcoholic beverages, illegal drugs, flammable liquids, explosives, and dangerous chemicals will not be returned. Such conduct can jeopardize crewmembers of their right to participate in the program and consequently jeopardizes the entire Known Crew Member (KCM) program. Lmao you think I care about wait times and passenger volume? Please remember you said this when YOU have a medical emergency or a general emergency (ie. In your feeble mind, do you really think the TSA guy sitting there makes the rules? 4.1.1. Dont just blame a work group. As a 121 passenger pilot, this would push me to go fly cargo, it would be too much of a hassle to go through normal security. If you have been inactive, on leave, or if you have been temporarily removed from service, you will not have KCM access. Almost 80%. NAVIGATION WARNINGS ENR 5.1 Prohibited, Restricted, and Other Areas. As a crew member it's disappointing to hear that KCM may be going away. Flight attendants have 2 months of training. And not punish the rest of us. It aint gonna happen. A: You should remain calm and ask to speak to a Lead or Supervisory Transportation Security Officer (LTSO or STSO) to the discrepancy. Life rafts are located on Deck 7 . It is unfortunate that in 2023, the program may no longer exist for some. You also clearly dont know what youre talking about if youre suggesting to not screen pilots. Crewmembers may request a new or replacement KCM barcode card from their airline management. In fact, there is at least one pilot sitting in jail in a foreign country because he forgot he had his gun. Making all of us lose this privilege will soon tax tsa, delay flights and and expand misconnects. They are not the DEA and yet they end up finding ridiculous amounts of drugs usually because some idiot left a water bottle in the bag. 0000060977 00000 n HAAAA!!! The TSA is a SECURITY SCREENING AGENCY not the DEA. We did it Joe! While I am an airline pilot, I fly for a major cargo airline and thankfully dont have to deal with the incompetent TSA smurfs. Crewmembers may not transit the KCM portal with any TSA prohibited items. If I'm not trusted, then fine.