I did not pick our stain only from photos, we went to other houses and had samples done. We have decided to go with a mix of white and light wood for the cabinets. A friend of mine had her red oak floors sanded and bleached to get the pink out and then sealed them. Good luck on your project!! I bought a cleaner made for the finish (similar to m quartz) and touch up is easy if needed. Ours is from Norway. It won't tell you what caused the scratching (glass particles in sand is the usual culprit. Absolutely, I can see that. What color are your cabinets and what color Corian did you go with? Pretty sure they bleached their cabinets but who knows at this point. The FASTEST curing water based products are Bona Traffic HD and Loba 2K Supra AT. Is there a really hidden section (you only need about 1 inch square) that you don't mind possibly damaging? The real way this is tested is actually even meaner to the floor - normally you take a box cutter, cross-hatch the floor (IE cut it in a grid pattern), and then put the tape on it and rip it up. It has been a nightmare trying to find this look in my area. Please leave this post up. As G & S states, the sealers will not AMBER over time (as in get DARKER) but the IntenseSeal and the ClassicSeal will offer SOME tan/yellow. Thank you to all of the experts for weighing in. They can use a big machine with a screening pad to get up most of that gunk. Any help appreciated! My cabinets are custom sizes and I was going to go with Barker cabinets (had my order all ready to send), but someone here on houzz recommended I check out this local guy first, and I am so glad I did! Or Bona Traffic + their stain line. The more coats you apply, the lighter it becomes. We got our hardwood lumber from a lumber mill in Berryville, VA. white/grey countertops with light wood floor & stainless appliances? Bona Craft oil 2K oiled floor in COLOR Air and dogs. Past techniques to achieve a natural floor look relied on harsh chemicals like bleach, two-part peroxide-based strippers or oxalic acid. Im trying to stay with the natural look. I had just had floors done by a floor shop, two years of hospice requires me to redo them, seems a layer can be scraped up with a spackle scraper easily and turned dark ( like cherry wood does in sunlight but this was white oak ). Is there a really hidden section (you only need about 1 inch square) that you don't mind possibly damaging? Heres how to keep them that way, Let the sunshine in. I have a dog that has an occasional accident. They don't like doing it - because they go through SOOO many screening discs (I've heard of more than 12 discs being used in one home). That's when we discovered he had never used water basedand that was the light-bulb moment for everyone. Also hope this helps .. colors hard to see on monitor, I tested classic seal, white stain and Nordic seal as well. It won't tell you what caused the scratching (glass particles in sand is the usual culprit. It still a major upgrade from Bona MEGa. We sell stone, fabricate and install countertops so we're there every step of the way which keeps me up to date on pretty much every stone that is used today. They have been through such an immense amount of heat and pressure during formation that all the sand grains have become crystals of Quartz. I think we can make Traffic HD work in our budget if we hold off on a few things and I can convince my husband. I have found some great inspirational pictures. If they are not able to confirm to you what material it is, then look elsewhere for your countertop fabrication. @mtpo - When will your floors be finished? Again, just make sure that you are getting professional grade rather than DIY grade product. It still should not come off. We will have 3500 sq of wood and certainly dont want problems. Not the best lighting. The light white washing will give you the raw look. STAIN OR LEAVE NATURAL??? In this angle Nordic is on the right and Natural is on the left. They are *very* hard, and you will be hard pressed to find a coating that stands up to them), but it would tell you that the floor coating appears to at least be behaving. They are dry and need one more day to cure. We also added the clerestory windows like you did. The correct answer should be "nothing at all". (Please do not tell us to order pre-finished floors or use an oil finish. The chemical composition of natural stones will affect their performance in your home so it's important you have this information. @Gilligan GehrityI am lucky (at least where I live) to have a cabinet maker who #1 will fit me into their schedule and #2 is willing to learn a method to satisfy my requests. G&S generally makes great comments and has solid analysis but in this case he assumed something not in evidence and commented based on that. The real way this is tested is actually even meaner to the floor - normally you take a box cutter, cross-hatch the floor (IE cut it in a grid pattern), and then put the tape on it and rip it up. WebBona NordicSeal is a waterborne sanding sealer that is formulated to provide a green alternative to a whitewashed floor without the use of caustic materials such as bleach. A quick scan of my question and then a quick scan of your answer simply lead G & S to believe all 3 coats were put down same day.which happens more than you really want to know. How should I adjust these home plans to save $ or improve the layout? Haven't made decisions on flooring yet, but I love white oak. (It looks a little pink on my IPad - its not in real life. So it comes in at 1025 or 1.25 X 820 sf (amount of flooring ordered with sufficient for waste/scrap. We went with natural seal and traffic HD finish. Part of me wishes we went satin finish bc I realized I do like a little sheen on a floor (just washed look). How are things holding up a ~year later? Is there another more affordable option I can try? Installing an 8" plank with full spread glue is EXPENSIVE (the labour alone is intense). Red and white oak floors are increasing in popularity. My guess would be red oak since they have gone more orange. It was another rude comment from someone who was engaging in further confrontation.Ive already asked Houzz to delete the post. Painting Floor Tile or replacing floor tile, Politique d'Utilisation des Cookies de Houzz. I absolutely love the floors. Please continue to post pictures of your kitchen. I went to the Neolith east coast showroom and actually picked something out I loved but my builders fabricator talked me out of it. I did call Bona and they assured me that none of the 3 sealers would add "yellow" or "amber" to my floors - but thought I'd also ask here. less. white/grey countertops with light wood floor & stainless appliances? WebOld worn white oak floors get a makover with Provincial stain to achieve a warm medium toned brown. It's hard to tell how deep those scratches are. One that I just came up was someone who posted a picture of their island door with Bona NaturalSeal. If ending up with the typical honey oak is my only choice, then I'd rather just get painted maple/mdfwhich isn't what I want! . I agree that Bona Natural or Bona Classic will likely be what we choose. Same price as Barker, but more choices for color (I'm doing white uppers/rift oak lowers) and lots of help with my kitchen design. Obviously flooring isnt my specialty, but it is yours. Bona Traffic finishes questions for people that have used it. is the only way to go. They achieve 95% FULL CURE after 5 days. Color we like the Bona Nordic best and the Bona Natural second, but they both have a muddy haze when you see them in real life. Heres a pic kitchen isnt finished yet but should give you an idea, Blizzard fierce or butter soft, white can highlight shapes, unify a room and perform miracles on the cheap, Avoid going too traditional and too clean by introducing an off-white palette that brings a touch of warmth and elegance, From silvery ash to honey blonde or chalk white, light-toned floors hold the key to the pared-back simplicity of Scandinavian style, Rustic touches from nature embellish the white-and-wood palette in this remodeled house in Denmark, White too bright in your kitchen? If, you want a raw pale look. In the finishing business, 'special' requires a bigger price tag. Floors are already sitting in the new house acclimating and I know that I am not cut out for the oil finish.). DuraSeal is light on the wallet (of the contractor) so they like to use it. are you happy with it 2+ years later (and is it holding up well with food/oil stains etc) please share any details, like if you had 2 or 3 coats. The builder had choices for us, this or that type of choice. Apply the second coat. I also read on a hard wood flooring contractor's forum about how in the 1980s everyone's white floors eventually looked terrible because the inevitable scratches turn dark from dirt and look awful against the white. The floor guys made custom floor vents. Dont know if you can see much in this photo the brown paper is torn away under the island and an area of the floor shows there. But maybe it is just old and scratched over the years? I have read through almost every post here looking to see how to get the most natural finish without yellowing. I am aware that it will require maintenance but most things do so Im fine with it. I have read so many wood floor horror stories. Can they be easily buffed out with a non-scratch sponge? It is my understanding that these Bona products are tricky to apply. (BTW - We ran into the issue with getting character grade mixed into our select a bit too, very frustrating!). The reactive simply pulls the tannins. I prefer to see 3 coats of the finishbut the Bona sealants are designed to be 'film building' sealants so they will add to the performance. MaryJane, My white oak floors have 1 coat of Bona Natural Seal and 2 coats of Bona. and any photos would be most appreciated I like the bona nordic white look in the 2nd photo (thats covering about 20 wood squares) is that the semi-gloss Loba, (or perhaps raw, freshly sanded parquet - that is the look i'm going for my wood finger parquet, lightened / whitewashed with the red/yellow/ambering removed and the seal to be almost matte. Combining Bona NaturalSeal with a matte-sheen finish such as Bona Traffic Naturale preserves that look and gives your floor the Can you also please send a picture of the floors with the seal and traffic HD? I don't want yellow - so thinking Natural or Nordic - but I'm worried about the white wash being too much. Here are some of my samples. Every client after that training will pay extra for his/her expertise. Can they be easily buffed out with a non-scratch sponge? Never make color selections off a computer screen or printed brochure. The NaturalSeal will offer the closest to the 'raw look' you are after. There was a warning on the front door telling everyone to stay out. Take the time to try all of the sample combinations. When I get to see them, Ill post pics. I believe there is a local one and I plan to at least explore that. We went with the Bona Nordic and Traffic HD. Also is he recommending abrading between the coats? It has come out very well. Oak floors are beautiful and timeless. The stain alone does not protect the floors, just adds color. Once you and your professional shake hands and write a contract that's when they come in and start the job. In this video, Joe demonstrates how to use Bona NordicSeal to achieve a whitewashed look in a hardwood floor. If youre really interested, Ill call the installer Brazilian Floors and see if he still has the info. We used 1 coat Bona Nordic and 2 coats Traffic HD in Satin. Ive read quite a few different comments on all 3 and some seem conflicting. The coating should not come up. Dark floors are pretty popular with clients but as you mention usually going with white or painted cabinets. I put any Quartzite that I have not carried before through vigorous testing before I sell it to my customers as a Quartzite. On their reactive stains and waxes: You can buy a sampler pack of both, or individual bottles. Sure, white kitchens are beautiful when theyre sparkling clean. Houzz nutzt Cookies und hnliche Technologien, um Ihre Benutzererfahrung zu personalisieren, Ihnen relevante Inhalte bereitzustellen und die Produkte und Dienstleistungen zu verbessern. Houzz Pro: One simple solution for contractors and design pros. My flooring guy said (and backed it up with a sample) that a water-based sealant with *no tint* (I think Bona ClassicSeal?) The NordicSeal is a great product for red oak it safely bleaches the wood and removes the harsh red tones. I disagree that it was not an attack on me as G & Ss follow up comment said, oh yeah, hidden message. This is Bona Natural Seal and Bona Nordic Seal on sanded white oak. And the professional you spoke to is correct: the 'hand sanding' is NO WHERE NEAR the same finish/product as the machine with 'final-grit' sanding. Dark Hardwood Floors vs. Light Hardwood Floors? Home Layout Changes - Full Remodel - Please help me decide! Oh cripe I had a whole response written out and it went poof. It could be as low as $2/sf. Also thank you for post and thank you too other posters. Thanks! A hint of tan. @Bongo. I also have some design software that may help with your need. (Thank you @Joseph Corlett for giving me the confidence to use Corian and to Heartwood Solid Surfaces for doing the work.) It has not been sanded or sealed yet so I hope we still like it when its finished. En cliquant sur Accepter , j'accepte l'utilisation des cookies telle qu'elle est dcrite plus en dtail dans la Politique d'Utilisation des Cookies de Houzz. And you want to have 3 coats total. Otherwise time will turn the white oak yellow regardless of how it looks when freshly finished. If not, you can at least trivially test the floor: First. First - The second pic you gave looks really weird. If you like the look of your raw white oak floors then NaturalSeal is your best bet. WebSome 5 white oak with Bona Natural Seal and Hd traffic extra matte. Let's see how long this finish last. Two things to do: First, drag your fingernail across it, see what happens. Although, it can be used as a stand alone sealer. We even "fumed" a few boards in a fuming tent, and they just didn't look as good as the waxes/oils. One other question. My tub with quartz top. Looking for something similar to yours, thank you! So due to budget going to have to give this a go on my own. Working Bona Traffic is 10x harder than off the shelf stuff. I just had four rooms of 30-year-old white oak floors sanded down to the raw wood and refinished with Bona products. @Hughey do you know what process for bleaching? Titan and Fortico can go on top of the waxes and reactives. This is not designed to be the tough outer layer Thanks so very much Shannon. Use Bona Naturaseal for the look you want. Hi thanks in advance for your help We are having white oak installed and finished on site. Don't test just with sealer. Press it very hard into the coating, and rip it up. new and it will be white oak common # 1. !Are you happy with the Satin? @Jessica Lirag what did you end up with? His maternal grandfather, Justice Thomas Smith, had been for many years a prominent lawyer and a distinguished judge in Philadelphia, and his maternal great-uncle, the Rev. Okay we have decided to go with Bona Traffic HD in extra matte! I am posting some final outcome pictures in different rooms and lighting. It may come in other thicknesses too. Whaaaaat???? The training may be 'free' but the cost to fly there, rent hotel room + food for 3 days (and lose 3 days worth of income) and fly back take money. WebAn icon used to represent a menu that can be toggled by interacting with this icon. I adore the light color, but every little water spot shows, or a splash of spilled coffee. will slightly darken the floors and sort of intensify the variation (the sample boards almost looked wet to me). Held off on final coat until project finished.. which will be done in a few days. @tkgriff I love your floors and am thinking about going for much the same look! I lost confidence in my floor guy - I think he wasn't wiping the stain off but letting it dry on resulting in washed paint look. We only did two and are already seeing wear and tear on the first floor in our main living space. And it is taking me some time to get used to a matte floor. Heres a close up. Prevent the tannin pull so common with white oak. Is the Nordic still a problem? Thank you. Bona nordicseal is greenguard certified for indoor air quality.