-drop safety-Hammer- - Z52749, Lussignoli Renzo W.Parker/ London Reproduction - C53215, A. Uberti & C. 1872 Open Top Theres something fun about putting the Glock 30 away and taking out the Peacemaker. Shooting, Reading, Riding my Horses, Maintaining my Ranch, Conversing With Friends and Family, Fixing Guns, (good) Old Western Movies, CAS, guns and shooting, guitar, reading, writing, CAS, shooting of any kind, music, baseball, THINGS THAT GO BANG! BORE IS NEAR MINT WITH EXCELLENT RIFLING. I HAVE A 1858 44CAL. stan wayback Thanks in advance. Take that, and cross reference it the list below. 1860 Henry Manual. But, Armi Sport is still in business (under a new name). re-grease, assemble, and go shoot for another year! You should have. There, you should find a roman numeral or two character alphabetical stamp. Cleaned properly, and loaded properly, a Remington Style Percussion Revolver, can be as reliable as a modern Cartridge gun. Barrel: 12 inch Remington. Pour boiling water down the barrel, than put a couple of dry patches down there, and your bore will be like the detergent advert! I have one of these which I bought after a whole lot of looking and reading. SOME PATINA ON 36 Caliber; 80% blue, fair bore, good grips, 505'' barrel, REPRODUCTION 1862 POCKET NAVY REVOLVER. A friend of mine purchased a 1874 Sharps repo made by them a few years. 1873 Rifle Manual. Years ago ASM had some fine artisans..the guns were good.ASM was under the direction of the Son in Law of Aldo Uberti. Fine quality pistol, exhibits high standards of Blued finish, brass triggerguard, with walnut grips. Our governor says that they can melt when shot I have a few black powder guns I have hunted with them for years and have yet seen one melt down .But the Local store here wont order one for you. Still have one that is now a back up. - 2) a few of the triggergaurd and backstrap screw heads have flaked a bitcosmetic only so far. Also, using silicon-impregnated caliber-specific wads between powder and ball forecloses having to smear grease into the chamber mouth re: chain firing. View cart for details. This may a bit late, but I just got here. Then little oil and you are set. 20?) Eventually, the design inspired the 1875 Remington, a true metallic cartridge revolver, but one that clearly shows the influences from the 1858. All of the Pietta replicas I have are fantastic, and they were all sourced from the same supplier (see last paragraph). I shot it once in the neck using a 200 grain 45 acp fmj bullet and about 37 grains of 777. That means that two Colt Peacemakers coming off the line 1 minute apart (11:59PM on Dec 31 1898 and 12:00 AM on Jan 1, 19 99, define the force of the law. They supplied American retailers with replica firearms over the 1960s thru 1990s. Do not try to turn a century-and-a-half old black powder design into a modern magnum. Snapped back so hard the hammer tore a chunk of meat from my thumb. In between, he was granted US Patent No. But always remember that the original buffal0 rifles were all black powder cartridges. It was late at night and I could hear my dog fighting with something. On clening, dont whatever you do mention water, on a web site run by some guy named John Fuhring. My theory was that the chamber pressure was too high and the percussion cap was pushing the hammer back causing the cylinder to try to rotate while the ball was passing from the cylinder to the forcing cone. 1883 Burgess Manual. I went out of my tent and I could barely see but there was a big ass bear looking at me about 20 feet away. See each listing for international shipping options and costs. I often find them employed at LGS and they are a good resource. That's your build date. I do remember an article about this first revolver in that it was so exactly copied from an original that even experienced Colt collectors had difficulty in telling the prototype from an original. Further, any muzzle loading rifle, shotgun, or pistol which is designed to use black powder or black powder substitute, and which cannot use fixed ammunition, is an antique firearm unless it (1) incorporates a firearm frame or receiver; (2) is a firearm which is converted into a muzzle loading weapon; or (3) is a muzzle loading weapon which can be readily Two Armi San Marco 1858 New Model Percussion Revolvers Auction Date: May 25, 2022. I had a pawl spring break on my late 1980's era EMF 1860 (Armi San Marco). .44 Cal percussion. She just a rolls out inna ya hand! But the website is easy to track sale prices through the year. Best of all its FREE, and in abundant supply in most homes!!! I had a Peacekeeper ASM and also a Longhorn in .45, never had trouble with them but I didn't have them very long, I sold them and bought my first Colt! Armi San Marco took some bad rep. toward the end of the Companys run. hikin PCT ,shooting steel bandits .TRAINS, shooting, hunting, fishing, blacksmithing. Bore and chambers in very good+ $395.00 Add to Cart Compare Pietta Remington Percussion - C55996 Turned out the Chaparral "factory" was just across the street and run by the gun shop's son . These models have steel frames with German silver plated backstrap and trigger guard, inspectors cartouche on grip, and trade for approximately $20-$40 higher than standard Blued finish, plain walnut grips. In the original box serial numbered to the gun. Fine. (Of course, if you want the value of a gun to quadruple, just buy it from me and wait five years.) This was sold and moved to Marietta, OH., and then, in around 1973, was sold to Navy Arms. Silliness aside, I had little to no interest in black powder until I was at the range next to an older fellow firing rounds through an old muzzle loader rifle. Claimed copyright infringement. I might be wrong about this! I load as follows: It could definitely be loaded to deer-hunting levels but I just used it to punch large holes in an old oil drum we left against the sand bank at the quarry. Armi San Marco was a family owned gun maker in Brescia, Italy. I have developed a way of cleaning and loading, that if followed EXACTLY, will give YOU the same degree of Reliability as I have! Watch Cabelas.com or Cabelas stores ( if you have one close to you) ). At that price, I bought it. Either way, a good dose of lube also helps keep the black powder fouling moist and pliable, and easier to clean out. I wasn't there. Bore and chambers in very good+ $395.00 Add to Cart Compare Pietta Remington Percussion - C55996 WebBuy a Armi San Marco 1858 Remington Replica Italian made .44 Remington 1858 Replica by manufacturer Armi San Marco. The owner was very knowledgeable about his business. Bullshit!!! Not that theres anything wrong with that. THE .44 Spec. I've had to do very little fitting on Uberti or Pietta replacement parts - Hammer/trigger/hand/bolt/cylinder/loading lever. Armi San Marco 1858 Remington Black Powder replica. Thanks. Look on the revolver barrel or bottom or side of cylinder frame. New in Box-never fired. I boil all my cylinders in a saucepan, and pour boiling water through the barrels of the guns. Personally, I think hes nutso! Some shot high except a .36 Army San Marco Colt 1851 Navy. The cookie settings on this website are set to 'allow all cookies' to give you the very best experience. It is all nickle, less the cylinder and plunger, which are gold, and a walnut grip. No rust on my guns! Reenacting: CW & IW The Kirst conversion is named after probably the most famous cinematic example of the 1858 Remington rapid cylinder change, the final gunfight from Clint Eastwoods Pale Rider. I taught my neighbors son (after he turned 18) how to shoot black powder with my 1858 and he fell in love with the revolver, so I gave him a new one for college graduation. My days of reloading by the thousands are past, so a pair of these are a real find at less then $300 bucks. Big thump, big cloud, and I could see the huge rounds hitting the berm when I was spotting through binoculars. Its parts will interchange with all 3 of my Colt 2nd Gen 1851, except the barrel (the pins at the front of the frame are placed differently). I just purchased an ASM replica of a 1858 Remington 44 and was wondering if anyone had any information about it. 10s will probably be best. I dont use grease on the cylinder. This was when ASM/Chaparral was making the infamous 73's and 66's. Unbelievable what has happened to the price of Old Army since Ruger quit making them. WebThat isn't going to be the case with the Italian replicas, but more often than not the answer is easily found stamped on the revolver. One of these has been on my list of stuff to get for a long, long time. I purchased it new from EMF in 1986. I also had 2 spare cylinders. If youve ever thought about getting into cap-and-ball pistols, and want an easy-to-use handgun thats also rugged and dependable, check out an 1858 Remington. I remember that ASM was sold to American Western Arms who only produces cartridge revolvers. This was very helpful, Im thinking about buying one of these pistols and this gave a lot of information about the pistol and the of it. Retail $300. These are considered antiques and not subject to paper work. I ended up giving it to an NRA black powder teacher to use for show and tell, (to show his class how to ruin a beautiful piece by not properly cleaning before long term storage). He has a bee in his bonnet, that he is the ONLY person in the world who knows how to correctly clean black Powder revolvers. I have a Uberti 1847 Walker. Stainless steel octagon barrel with drift adjustable front sight, elevation adjustable rear sight. WebRemington 1858 Armi San Marco 44 Black powder loading and shooting 4,144 views May 17, 2015 37 Dislike Share Save Harri Miettinen 68 subscribers Subscribe Shooting well, few years ago I visited a gun shop in Brescia "Palmetto" and I was looking for the double gun they were selling (Chaparral Sidebyside) . SOLD When it did fire on time I could hit a coke can at 25 yards most of the time. In the .44 version, each of the six chambers can hold up to 40 grains of black powder. FINISH SHOWS MODERATE HANDLING WEAR WITH MODERATE WEAR, SPECKLING AND LIMITED PITTING VISIBLE ON THE CYLINDER. Any gun made before Jan 1 1999 i is an antique gun, and requires no involvement of an FFL holder. FOOD, For an 1858, the standard Remington caps will work brilliantly. When Puma started having the 92's made by them instead of Rossi in Brazil, they increased the prices but not the workmanship. -drop safety-Hammer- - Z52780, A. Uberti & C. 1872 Open Top I used to also have an 1858 Remington clone by ASM. With .40 grains of Black Powder I get about 400 ft-lbs of Energy. Excellent shape with no not for sale by BuffaloHunter4 on GunsAmerica.com the best online marketplace for buying and selling semi auto pistols, firearms, accessories, and collectibles : 972952045 THE BLUING IS NEAR FLAWLESS. Very nice article on the 1858 Remington. Armi San Marco first started making a Colt 1873 replica in the middle 1980s. Cimarron Thunderer and BORE IS VERY GOOD WITH SHARP RIFLING. Oh, and dont use your telephone to order them, either. FINISH SHOWS LIGHT HANDLING WEAR WITH LIGHT WEAR VISIBLE ON THE CYLINDER. Pietta "1858" CCH Hammer with lowered Spur by Ol' #4 30.00 + 2.75 shipping via USPS Selling as a set: Pietta Hammer, Trigger, Hand w/spring, Bolt/Trigger Spring and Hammer Spring 23.00 shipped. Red Coats Get Run Off. Brass front sight, notched hammer rear sight. This page was last updated: 04-Mar 00:33. A standard 1858s barrel measures eight inches. Also, ASM use forged frames instead of castings on many of their revolvers.Replica Arms of El Paso, TX was started by L.F. Allen. Very scary as all get out. The 12 month average price is $290.50 new and $284.87 used. Dear Mr. Nickel, Dont ever get law and logic mixed up; they have nothing in common. WebThe 1858 Remington New Army is both a beautiful collectors piece and a rugged side arm. The strong Remington frame made it fairly easy to convert the pistol over to metallic cartridge use, as firearms technology rapidly advanced after the Civil War. The conversion cylinder is indeed just a part, and can be bought anywhere any time any place. It definitely seems that the makers will do as much quality control as is expected by the importer. New in Box-never fired. It has never given me a lick of trouble, and whenever I am at a shoot where I want to do as best I can, it will be in my right holster, with a 3rd Gen Colt in my left. Left grip has a chip of wood missing at the pin on the back edge. Thanks Dan. 1860 Henry Manual. While some parts just dropped right in and worked, the replacement hands needed the most work. In 1993, the Hartford line was introduced by E.M.F. Allen then started Western Arms which became Allen Arms, and then to Cimarron. It required something Long and thin, preferably with a hook at its end, to fish the Mashed and Mangled remains of the cap, out of the Innards of the gun, before Battle could once more be joined! ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. If the shooter was a little rough with the gun, and dropped the hammer into the Half Cock Notch, the tip of the trigger could break off, radically altering the sight picture. Not only is that the right way to hunt, deer that go down fast and clean taste better. Any gun made before Jan 1 1999 i is an antique gun, and requires no involvement of an FFL holder. I just purchased an ASM replica of a 1858 Remington 44 and was wondering if anyone had any information about it. I took 2 quick shots at about 70 yards (yes, too far, I know) one round hit its head, the deer dropped. ARMI SAN MARCO .45 LC Hartford Model Box Papers Manual Spring, Genuine ASM & CVA - Stop Bolt - For Remington 1858 Revolver - Armi San Marco, Armi San Marco dragoon pistol grips pearl / gold leaf plastic, Armi San Marco Hawkeye/Ridgerunner Reference copy single page 7.5x11Diagram, SAN MARCO - ROAD BIKE - SADDLE - ROLLS - GOLD RAILS, Leave feedback about your eBay search experience - opens in new window or tab. Customer Service. Fine quality pistol, exhibits high standards of I have done extensive testing of Black Powder guns and have a webpage with my collected Energy Data here: http://poconoshooting.com/blackpowderballistics.html. I also have an open top revolver and an 1873 rifle that are Uberti. Web44 Caliber; very good+ bore, good grips, 7.75'' barrel, Pietta .44 caliber Remington 1858 style six shot black powder revolver in nickel plate finish. Now, if only I could get my wife to come with me and reload.oh well. Despite my kill, in my opinion, its not strong enough but fun as a backup which is why I used it. On opening day he is in his blind and simply waits for a really good buck to come along. THE BORE IS .45 Colt; near mint bore, like new grips, 7 1/2'' barrel, UBERTI CATTLEMAN REPRODUCTION OF A COLT SAA IN EXCELLENT CONDITION. 44 BP; excellent bore, good grips, 8'' barrel, Made in Italy. He would also GIVE to Government Officials, very fine engraved Pistols, beautifully engraved with Silver of Gold, to U.S. (No, I didn't win it my son beat me in the shoot-off. THE BORE IS 45 Caliber; 97% blue, good bore, excellent grips, 10'' barrel, ITALIAN REPRODUCTION OF A "W.MOORE-LONDON" SINGLE SHOT CAP & BALL PISTOL IN VERY GOOD OVERALL CONDITION. Put some lube over the ball to prevent chain fire. The Beals model came earlier, then the Old Model Army/Navy, and, finally, the new Model. The ASM firing pin holes in the recoil shields weren't hardened so they tend to develop a dimple that the primer flows in to binding the cylinder. Hooray for water! Not to put too fine a point on an excellent review but the Preacher killed Marshal Stockburn at the end. 1866 Rifle Manual. Years ago ASM had some fine artisans..the guns were good.ASM was under the direction of the Son in Law of Aldo Uberti. For effective ignition, a ball has to fit tightly in the cylinder, and consequently a bit is shaved off when loading. I am sure it will do for deer. In 1993, the Hartford line was introduced by E.M.F. Always like the Remington over the Colt design ever since seeing Lorne Greenes on Bonanza as a kid. And man, do we have a lot of Bambis kin running loose here. percussion caps are NOT standard size. Thatd be 24 shots of fairly rapid fire, not shabby even by todays standards. Original blued finish and plain walnut grips. Some folks claim doing so helps prevent chain fires, or all the cylinders going off at once. Unless the revolvers were actualy made before Jan 1. ASM attempted to revive its percussion revolvers with limited success and finally closed its doors several years back. RO11, Cowboy Mounted Shooting, Hunting and Cowboy Action Shooting, Parts are still available on a limited basis from. For powder loads, the .36s usually run 15-20 grains (that is by volume, not by weightso you MUST use a measure), while most loads for .44s that Ive seen (all my guns are .36) are 25 to (max) 35 grains. 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WebArmi San Marco Black Powder Revolvers Remington 1858 Army & Navy Parts List Sort by: Show Available 0 Schematic w/ Parts List 1 Barrel 2 Barrel Stud 3 Loading Lever Latch 4 Loading Lever Latch Spring 5 Latch Pin 6 Loading Lever 7 Loading Lever Link Pin 8 Loading Lever Link 9 Plunger 12 Loading Lever Screw 13 Base Pin 14 Cylinder 16 Bolt 17 Chat with us; Phone us at (616) 432-6640 . These models have steel frames with German silver plated backstrap and trigger guard, inspectors cartouche on grip, and trade for approximately $20-$40 higher than standard The US Government needed as many revolvers as it could get. Water is definitely the very best way to get rid of Black Powder fouling. First, only one person had the cutoff date right; it is 1998 / 99. If you look closely during that scene, you can see the metallic cartridge loading gate cut into the 1858, as well as the metallic cartridges themselves peeking out of the cylinder that Preacher grabs with his left hand. These two revolvers just feel better ergonomically than either the Uberti .357's or the USFA .38 Special revolvers I have. Some of it justifiedhowever if you know the reason then it's some what understandable. Then, I took it to a gunhack who buggered the threads. if you wish you can contact your local ATF to find your answer. Nope. All Armi San Marco black powder cap and ball and cartridge conversion models were discontinued in 2000. After just 2 shots it seizes up and wont cock. It's not my "go to" rifle, (that is an AWA Lightning) but now that it's been worked on, it's a nice one. I got to fire a few cap and ball revolvers when on holiday in Italy. FRONT SIGHT IS MISSING. I had one of the Pietta 1858 Remingtons and while I enjoyed shooting it and learning about the history and evolution of firearms, the cleaning requirements are intense. Not really outrage, but an eyeroll for sure. WebThat isn't going to be the case with the Italian replicas, but more often than not the answer is easily found stamped on the revolver. I just purchased an ASM replica of a 1858 Remington 44 and was wondering if anyone had any information about it. Dont touch it unless the gun is pointing in a safe direction cause there is is no transfer bar. You know youve got a good, airtight seal in the chamber when the mouth of the cylinder shaves a small lead ring off the edge as you seat the ball. Armi San Marco 1858 Remington Black Powder replica. Mechanically fine., s/n C216xx, 44 BP; 90% blue, good bore, good grips, 7.5'' barrel, Made in Italy. The cylinder! Web1858 Remington, Richards Mason & Open Top Conversion Manual. It is all nickle, less the cylinder and plunger, which are gold, and a walnut grip. Grips for the Uberti 1873 Cattleman El Patron Grizzly Paw New Model as well as the 1860 and 1872 Colt army made by Cimarron, Pietta and Uberti. It is a very pretty gun with a 24 octogon barrel and a case hardened receiver. Web* Armi San Marco, copy of Remington Model 1858, .44 cal, s/n 61367, black powder revolver. Click on the "Full Description" fore more info. WW II RIBBON USS SAN MARCOS LSD-25 NAVY*EMBROIDERED POLO SHIRT/SWEAT/JACKET. Allen then started Western Arms which became Allen Arms, and then to Cimarron. All Armi San Marco black powder cap and ball and cartridge conversion models were discontinued in 2000. Retail $300. Come join the discussion about hunting, fishing, survival, archery gunsmithing, optics, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! He carried a nickel plated 8 Remington 1858 and a peacemaker. And you thought the New York reload was a modern invention? and they sent me a Pietta trigger which fit just fine. No record exists of his ever giving an Ordinary, Plain workmanlike Pistol, to anyone who might actually have to FIGHT with the badly designed piece of Junk!!!!! This was a very common happening in the field. I've been told these ASM revolvers' parts interchange with Colt 1st generation. Used, grip strap wear and shows handling. WebThis conversion cylinder assembly will convert your 1858 Remington ASM, Uberti or Pietta steel or brass .44 cap and ball revolver to fire .22 cartridges. They thought if they started raising the price on their guns to in the, same range as Uberti that all the problems would go away. Rare US coins, Carson City, Nevada history, Redheads. And a .50 sabot over 100 grains of Pyrodex is a humane, instant-kill deer load out to 150 yards. . Armi San Marco took some bad rep. toward the end of the Companys run. Even though todays 1858s are made with modern steels and CNC machines, you still want to shoot only light cowboy loads through them. Most of the pieces are in a ziploc bag saved for what purpose I don't know. The instruction manual back then did not give any information on proper cleaning. He took the gun back. Gauge: 44 percussion. Check out our forum: But it's action Oh, it's action REALLY stank. And if both Buffalo Bill and Clint Eastwood liked it in different centuries, you know its got to be good. They make the guns for different companies and the workmanship is terrible. Thanks for giving some info on the handgun side of the black powder world. All you have to do is go inside of a gun made by them and you will see how bad it is. The bad guy carries a Peacemaker (a bit earlier than its actual appearance, but what the hell, it aint a documentary) (Said to have claimed his last victem by shooting him twice, skinning him and nailing his hid on the livery stable door! WebBuy a Armi San Marco 1858 Remington Replica Italian made .44 Remington 1858 Replica by manufacturer Armi San Marco. I had a pawl spring break on my late 1980's era EMF 1860 (Armi San Marco). In 2004 I orderd a Uberti 1851 Colt part from the very back of the Brownells catalog the Uberti part fit better than the original, with both parts out side by side the Uberti had better finnish, the 'ASM' part had tool marks and general over all rough apperance (probibly why It is the reciever/frame of any gun that is the controlled part, basically the receiver or frame IS the gun, legally.