Fun to read through this after watching all the vids. I just dont shoot the Weatherby as well as I used to, and even reloading is expensive enough I dont do much plinking with it. To wit: 1. Going to take the plungedeep. Vald, I love me some harbor freight. Great rifle. Ive got a line on a used Seekins Havak Element in 6.5 PRC. Unfortunately, I cant weigh in on the Sauer 100 yet because I havent tried it. XBolt Pro is a good gun but needs a new trigger. Maybe not, but I have been caught in down pores and all the morons that were with me came back to the car with rust on their guns but not me. Im surprised it didnt make the list. Plus, it uses an old-school sporter stock that just isnt what todays long-range shooter is looking for. Franchi designs some very good scatter guns, and this is their first rifle attempt. Its like comparing a Kia against a BMW. Overall, if you forced me to pick a winner in this category, Id probably give it to the Springfield 2020 Waypoint. Zero quality control issues. Ergonomics * * * * It can be tough to watch all the individual reviews of rifles that I do on Youtube and get a sense for where each rifle stacks up on the Jim Scale, so in this post, Ill give it to you straight. This rifle broke two scopes I highly recommend the Leupold which I have on it now .team this up with the Barnes TTPX BT. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Christensen MPR The MPR looks fantastic, but I do feel like its a little bit of lipstick on a pig. (weight) I used to not care about if the bolt locked on safe but after a walk in the woods of ND with a Ruger American and the bolt falling out, to not be recovered on the opener, I now only have guns that lock the bolt on safe. Thank you for your great videos especially on moderately priced optics and arms. enough shoulder for secure mounting. Looking past your racism when you buy once and buy quality you never cry about it, your just damn glad you made the right decision because often a lost opportunity is just that, it never comes again in life. Thoughts? Granted, I got the better tools for measuring how off what they sold is but theres some applications where cheap is better. I have been eyeing the ruger go wild.I like the heavier barrel profile. Id probably go with the Bergara Wilderness Ridge. My two next rifles will be a Weatherby Mark V and a Sako 85. Wondering your opinion on those I understand theyre not hunting rifles I just thought you would enjoy those rigles as I do. Great Content. Franchi Momentum All-Terrain Elite .308 Win 18" 1:11" Bbl TrueTimber Strata/Midnight Bronze 10+1 Rifle 41750. I believe the momentum rifle could easily stack up against the models outlined in the under $500 category. Dumb! Model 70s and tons and tons of various 98 Mauser rifles ranging from converted low cost military guns to commercial Mausers that cost thousands. Savage 110? High comb, rigid, modern stock lines. Good read. That limits my choice of rifles. Ive tried a lot of others, including Hornady PH (178gr I think) and Hornady Match 168 gr, and they are lucky to shoot 4 inch group with huge point of impact change. I just bought a Savage Axis II XP in 308 after much research and debate amongst my hunting partners. How us that helping? Unfortunately now I see it for $1700. My 6.5 CM shoots sub MOA groups. I have played with many of the rifles you have. Regardless, they should have went with a flush mount magazine like the Axis which, if I may add sells new for a third of the Momentums MSRP in my part of the world. I am about ready to purchase the Springfield Waypoint 2020 in 6.5 prc then, i see the Proof Elevation MTR is offered in a 7prc, as is the Rival in a 7prc Its an EXCELLENT do-all caliber. Really enjoy reading your reviews and opinions! Fantastic. ISO: 20ga (semi-auto, sxs, and o/u in order of priority), Recommendation for a tarp for my pack - mostly going to use to put quarters on but, FORLOH AllClima Softshell and AllClima Stretch Woven Pant Review. What would you like to know? unloaded and 46.7 . The Howa is around $200-$300 cheaper than the Savage. If you just go in the store, they almost never seem to have any good chambering options. There are a few really nice ergonomic details that Franchi has implemented on their stocks. NO, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_control_in_Italy, F Franchi, and Baretta and their ilk. Seller: Ammo And Arms. Im looking for ANY rifle with a floor plate, metal, and wood but the only two I find are model 70, and browning. Beater rifles go until they cant. It doesnt handle recoil well because of the stock design. I really like the sig cross but I cant decide between 308 or 6.5 Creedmoor, or if I should instead go for a different rifle with chamberings more suitable for my kind of hunting and if so what chamberings and rifles would you suggest. Not many have been around since they are new this year. Try that some time with a modern made low budget piece of shit. So I do still think they have some QC issues to deal with. If you want a wood stock, metal parts, and nice bluing, feel free to spend an extra $300 or more on a Ruger Hawkeye or similar. The trigger is adjustable like the Tikka. Hey Jim, your videos are great not only on rifles, but optics too. FRANCHI MOMENTUM ELITE True Price: $ 816.99. It has become one of my favorite guns. The Tikka T3X Lite comes with an absolutely fantastic action. You know, turning ammo into noise kind of use. Simply depress the rear of it while sliding the bolt out the back of the receiver. Caliber: .308 Winchester (available in five other calibers, too) Notify me of follow-up comments by email. In the end I still believe the 7mm RM is more versatile. Saving a penny by not buying grease and oil costs you hundreds of dollars in rust repair. I use Swaro and Zeiss optics and i use moderators on all of mine. I love that Fierce Reaper but would probably have to sell another nice gun to get it and not sure I quite want to do that. Ill use my customized REM 700 in 300 win mag for elk. Thanks! BTW unless youre reloading, the vast majority of factory 6.5 Creedmoor is quite a bit faster than the same projectile in 6.555. The Sig Cross: Amazing design after some early quality control issues. It was raffled, gave winner 450 hoping to thrd and add brake but barrel too thin. I didnt see a Bergara in your list. Jim- Have you tested/reviewed any of the Sauer 100 rifles? If a person is willing to invest the money; would you recommend the reaper above all else for a do it all hunting rifle? Obscenely lightweight. As of now its my most accurate and favorite rifle. The only downside I see is the weight at 7 plus pounds if your looking for a ultralight mountain rig. What is your honest opinion of the CZ 600 FRUSTRATING. I have one in 308 and Federal premium 168grain Berger hunter (or hunter hybrid, cant remember now) shoot less than an inch at 100 yards, but now they are hard to find. Surprisingly accurate. However, Ruger American rifles are not perfect. I too had nailed it down to the Savage or the Ruger American Rifle. . I was looking at the Tikka for a while but Im not crazy about the slower twist in .30-06. 5. Ive been pouring over your channels videos, and a lot of Ron Spomers content (as well as a few others for the past months). Instead of light gun oil, I wouldwipe gun with a rig rag. Bergara seems to have just come out with a Walnut stock maybe as a result of one of you comparing their stocks to garage floors??? Is it worth it? I owned one in .28 Nosler and it was a very poor choice for that heavy-recoiling of a cartridge. You dont want fine wood and blued steel in the rain on a hunt. and Both have NO bolt lock when on safety. My arms are a bit short and most hunting rifles are just too long for me, length of pull wise. The ammo is inexpensive and widely available, the recoil in manageable for most shooters, and the cartridge is unquestionably capable of taking elk cleanly. I was about to buy a Christenson Arms rifle but you and a few others have commented about the quality. Powered by UBB.threads PHP Forum Software 7.7.5. Italy has crazy gun control laws, like most of Europe. I have 13 riffles in calibers from 7mm08 , 270 ( my favorite caliber), 300H&H and 300 WM and 300WSM in Weatherby Mark V and Vanguard, Sako, Tika, Winchester model 70 pre 64 and new one, Kleingunther, Browning Xbolt, Browning medallion, BAR in 270 and 300 WM, 7mmMag in Weatherby Vanguard and Sako composite, Bennelli Lupo in 270. Its become a turn off. This gun is for actually hunting in adverse conditions and not worrying about scratching it or damage. Or, even better if your choice cost less. But the chassis is the killer for me. Ive been kicking around trying out the 28 Nosler just to pick up a bit more performance at 500+ ranges. It talks about every calibre Savage Arms is selling in Canada but dont talk about calibre I purchased. Two of them shoot 270s and one in 25-06. The Elite series, added alongside the budget-priced original in 2020, did nothing to diminish those impressions. Jan 18, 2020 #3 C clockworkgator DK. Really enjoy your channel and dialogue on your reviews. JavaScript is disabled. Since recording the review of the Sig Cross, my copy of the gun did develop the issue with the safety where it doesnt quite go to the correct position. It appears that Fierce is stretching the truth a bit on weight because mine weighs 6 pounds, 4 1/8 oz and its a short action with 24 6.5mm barrel so it should be about the lightest one they have. The SIG Cross would be a best second choice. Your reviews and articles are very helpful for us folks that dont have a big gun shop within 150 miles! It is so fun to shoot and is extremely accurate! Why no ones talk about the sakos in the states?? Thanks, Joe. There are so many other options to consider, but hopefully, that gives you a solid starting place if youre looking for a premium hunting rifle. It was made for them as a throw back to the Finbear (now Discontinued) Its chambered in 270. Is there a far better option for the money? Did you pick up the Seekins? The scope I bought is a Sea Adler, 3x9x40. He has managed multiple gun ranges, and has hunted around the world. The stock feels really cheesy. The action is butter smooth and the stock has a palm swell the sold me when I first picked the gun up. If you want an accurate rifle with a threaded barrel and a decent trigger, it doesnt seem like you can go wrong with this one for under $500. Thank you and keep up the great job! I figured I could get an AR rifle with Sub MOA accuracy that could maybe hit 2 birds with 1 stone. It doesnt snag or grab clothes but somehow its still plenty soft and grippy. Hard to go wrong with it for online prices often below $400. I\m relatively new to the channel & website, and it has quickly become a favorite of mine. Synthetic as in black plastic, to be clear, not as in carbon fiber or some other fancy stuff. The trigger however appears to be decent and I like the one piece bolt but I think the internal magazine is a deal breaker for me. In this price range, this rifle appears to be a very good value. Commissions are earned for links to Brownell's, Amazon, MidwayUSA, GoHunt, OpticsPlanet, Sportsman's Warehouse, and other retailers. Its that or the ruger American in 6.5. Just remember one thing the price of the good older stuff keeps going up and up so when you waste your money on junk it never goes up in value as fast as the good stuff so when you do get around to buying something of quality you lost twice not once. Any opinion on it? Its the classic , its The One , its stood the test of time , its been around longer than the rest and will still be here long after these other rifles have fallen out of fashion. It has the Accufit stock, but not the Accustock with the aluminum rail system. Ill update the post. Would love to know your thoughts on the Seekins Precision Havak PH2 rifles. The Momentum loved Armscors 168 grain FMJs, though. Ive got a lot of autoloader pistol and AR experience, but my only bolt action is an old Mosin Nagant. Ill keep one in mind next time Im in the market. I have been considering the Winchester xpr spotter (walnut stock) in 308 Win. Id pick the CVA Cascade from that group. I would love to get your take or even see a review on it. That\s not a total game changert now there are other choices. The trouble Im having wracking my brain over is caliber. The narrow width put my eye behind the scope nicely but also leaves enough fudge factor for owners who will add an aftermarket cheek piece or wrap. Not much going on here, really, but its simple and it works. Yeah, the Reaper is pretty awesome. Hey Jim I recently found your stuff and have been doing a deep dive. 1 is the Footprint for the Action is proprietary, It is NOT made by Bergara. I own a 6.5-.300 Wby and reload my own ammo. Its a well designed stock, but the fit and finish feels cheesyespecially the checkering pattern they use. Any opinions/guidance would be much appreciated! My loads averaging 3050 fps with the 162gr eldx. Do you think this is normal business practice ? What are your thoughts on the Remington Model 700 Alpha One? Using Burris Zee rings, I just applied a thin layer of silicone sealant inside the rings and remounted the scope. I like the straight comb with minimal drop and I found the cheek weld comfortable. I might just know about a new rifle coming in January 2023 that might change your mind, Awesome reviews Jim. Kimber Mountain Ascent Subalpine I just dont like the Kimber Mountain Ascent. I personally prefer the Bergara B-14 Ridge, but they are all good options. I have been looking at the 6.8 western. There are very few reviews and almost zero information about how the Howa carbon shoots. You have entered an incorrect email address! And a nice walnut stock would have cost them a few more pennies to use. I\m a big fan of your videos and expertise. With the Sako 85 you get better wood and more metal, but I would rather buy a Tikka T3. An innovative modern design with folding buttstock, pistol grip. I really like the Springfield waypoint but it is out of my price range but definitely the nicest rifle Ive held! I came over the years to loath short action rifles. Thats a nice collection. The barrel is cold hammer forged with rifling like the Sako (Tikka). Jim, Great content on both the website and on Youtube. Its way more fun to shoot than the other guns. I would like something under 6# for $2000 or less with a carbon wrapped barrel. I would also love a video on the Winchester model 70 extreme weather! 1. can be top loaded, If you were to build a rifle what action would you use. I think you did a good job in your review of 25 hunting rifles at various price points. After reading you, I am going to use them now for hunting. Its a 3-lug design with a decently large extractor and ejector and large locking lugs. Its a scaled down, lighter weight Sako TRG action with a Sako barrel and trigger. I agree! So how do you really feel? Copyright 2000-2023 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved. Hello Jim. In our testing, we had all of the guns chambered alike, but as soon as any of the reviewers shot the Tikka after shooting the other rifles, they all commented that the recoil felt heavier. No, naturally I forgot to measure and I didnt keep the targets (estimating with the On Target app based on the dimensions of the ammo box, its about 0.45 MOA). Sako has major problems with there stocks , I have owned several finnlight 85s and the stock will get sticky , Its not if its when , Sako will not do anything about this issue , They blame it on det in insect spray , I had one still in the box that got sticky and they didnt have an answer for that , You can read about this issue online its everywhere , Browning took care of this problem when they had this issue , I will never buy another sako for this reason , Do your research before buying one. And based on my limited sample size, this budget rifle seems to prefer budget ammo. Iv shot most all Base Price: $789.99: Tax: - In Stock: kygunco.com Buy. $799.00 Add To Cart For Price. Savage just came out with a Savage 110 carbon predator. Thanks. You have my general answer, but below Ill provide more detail and reasoning for those selections, as well as some rifles not to pick. This ammo is usually an average accuracy performer for me, but dang did the Franchi shoot it well. Also, since I\d prefer to keep it to one gun I was more interested in buying a semi-custom gun and was thinking about getting the Fierce Carbon Rogue. The only downsides I have read of it is its screw-on bolt-knob and the fact that you may need a few more tools to disassemble the rifle. Agreed on the MarkV. Jim, Ive owed most of the brands youve mention here. And true to their ads, it is a sub-MOA shooter. The barrel is cold hammer forged with rifling like the Sako (Tikka). You have no opinion worth anything. First available in 1936 for Petes sake. Boy, so many good 7 mags. Like, sure. Thanks for such a speedy response. It also really liked this 147 grain MEN stuff that I bought in bulk cheap some years ago basically just for semi-auto plinking use. Have you reviewed one yet? Action is amazing and a really great factory trigger. I just purchased a Rival this week. I have been taking in everyone of ur vids I can find and sincerely appreciate your work and am interested in your take on the Seekins product? It is still a preferred caliber in Scandinavia for big game. Fierce rifles are accurate, built well, look great, come with good triggers, and feed perfectly. Cannot find the Federal rounds anymore so Shooting the Hornady Precision Hunter 110s now. Stock: A carbon version of Bergaras excellent HMR stock. They have shot the ruger and no problem but alittle heavy to be packing around the mountain. Looks like a good buy. Nor did it entirely love the excellent Hornady Black ammo, putting two rounds through the O that I was aiming at and three in another very tight group some distance away. Great deal. I took it back to Scheels and the guys said its the second time someone has brought one back with that issue in a week. We have a complete post on the best rifles under $400 right here. My initial impression is that it is a pretty standard budget bolt gun. The only problem with a Springfield 2020 Waypoint is they dont offer it in enough chamberings. I have monkey arms so a new stock is in the future for whatever rifle I choose another reason Im trying to keep the price down. Definitely the most accurate rifle I have owned right out of the box. I really love your channel. I dont say that lightly. Ive fallen in love. Hello Jim, Your videos and information are amazing. Very accurate, handles recoil well, and easily in your price point with room to spare. I like the fact that you backed your reviews with a substantial reason for the review vs nothing to substantiate the review. Im looking at the Waypoint now. It weighs a little heavy per the stats, Ill admit but at that price point, its very hard to ignore especially since lightweight after-market chassis can cost as much as the base model B-14, Rem 700, Tikka T3, etc.
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