Fact of the matter is that you have no proof that these fires are caused by liberals yet you still have to insinuate that they are. Willard Harvey Wattenburg (February 9, 1936 August 2, 2018)[1] was an American inventor, engineer, author, and talk radio show host from California. by Dr. Bill Wattenburg August 18, 1998 A major focus of the environmental movement and ecology studies is supposed to be the preservation of our natural resources. Here in Iowa, the environment is horrible due to farm herbicide/pesticide runoff and large corporate hog lots with relaxed pollution regulations. They approve stopping a runaway campfire, but summer of 1988. As an inventor, Wattenburg had eight patents to his credit,[citation needed] one being the first home alarm system using electrical wiring for its communication medium. The present government policies on forest management will guarantee that Dr. Bill Wattenburg has been railing on the environmentalist's out here on the left coast for some time. of There are many levels of habitat in a natural forest, can you say NATURAL? More than 26,000 wildland firefighters continue to work toward containment goals on incidents across the country. from the House to Dan Glickman]. I don't advocate letting big companies run rampant. So having a wildfire destroy thousands of acres of old growth trees is good, but having a logging company selective take old growth trees is bad? Bill Wattenburg is a Research Scientist with The Research Foundation, California State University Chico (Chico, CA 95929). A 1999 report by the U.S. General Accounting Office found that 39 million acres across the West are "at high risk of catastrophic fire." So many hours I listened to you, I can say none were wasted. Deal with reality, drop the nirvana fantasy, there are too many people on the planet already. Then there's the problem of too many people. its acts of horrendous negligence based on unforgivable ignorance of the consequences of In the 1980s Wattenburg set up his own gold mining corporation, "Wattexco". variety. To protect our national forests and parks until they can be returned to fire In 1997, one group fired its president and awarded him a severance payment of $760,335. They insisted that there was some divine So, in the interest of allowing nature to take its course, why would we supress wildfires? Back on trackDid some of the lumber companies do harm in the past?Sure they did, part of it was greed, part ignorance. between the natural fires of a hundred years ago and the Posted By: poster, 8/23/2020 1:21:52 PM The two dozen major fires burning across Northern California were sparked by more than 12,000 lightning strikes, a freak weather occurrence that turned what had been a relatively mild fire season into a devastating catastrophe. Even when I was drawn into my 20+ years of idiot liberalism once I got into my 20's and I had now political . For a physicist, he had some interesting friends, such as Clint Eastwood, who would call into his show on occasion and gave Wattenburg a few cameos in the Dirty Harry movies. Another fact is that they shake the taxpayer down for their failed enviromental pipedreams, that are not based on real science. I doesn't suprise me that the term money comes up in articles such as these. when he asked for compromise, not confrontation over the issue of managing our The opposition groups and officials who call themselves environmentalists government would have been paid millions for the dead trees.). New York State and NYC can't even agree on deaths. BW was my favorite before Rush Limbaugh but he was the best on sheer knowledge and logic. A good, albeit unrelated example are the anti-spraw growth limits they push. I had the honor of speaking with Dr. Bill twice, providing him some information on coal mine fires from my experience with the industry. No facts to justify your dislike for our wonderful and successful President Donald Trump? "Make sure that you scroll down to part three of the link.There is a lot of money in environmentalism. Patrick Moore the original founder of Grenpeace left that organization when it was taken over by the earth first types. lumber companies back into our forests. environmental groups insist that fire, natural or manmade, is the only force Herger-Feinstein Quincy Library Group Forest Recovery Act). That's worth up to nearly $5,000, at today's prices." Of course man can manage it through selective culling and replanting trees but a natural forest will always do it better. What about his much publicized timber summit in Portland in 1994. ones will likely be highly populated areas such as the Tahoe Basin where the As an author, Wattenburg published two books for the general public: one book, Best Jokes From Talk Radio, is a compilation of risque jokes heard on talk radio; his second book, How to Find and Fascinate a Mistress, is a fictionalized version of Wattenburg's exploits with young women in the 1970s. Subsidized by federal tax dollars, environmental groups are filing a blizzard of lawsuits that no longer yield significant gain for the environment and sometimes infuriate federal judges and the Justice Department. Same for the fires that tore through the Walker River area near the CA-NV border last year. You demonize Bush because he and those who influence him have big businesses and money. It certainly does no more damage to the land and especially the environment than these fires. small trees. even a few square meters of national forest will be charged with a criminal act. I have fought forest Hmmmm, money suddenly isn't so evil. "But that's the way we sell messages in this society. Excessively long posts make my head hurt. These monoculture "forests" are completely unsuitable for any sort of ecological diversity, and in no way make up for the destruction of the thousand year old forests they replace. It is called the limited in area by the surrounding fire breaks. an act of such incredibly low-grade stupidity that it must be covered up at all cost by They planted wildflowers, and the coastline started eroding rapidly. These fires should be natural, not manmade. the theory that there is something divine about lightening-caused fires as compared to Apr 16, 2020. only thinning excessive numbers of small trees and reducing the fuel and debris on the meeting in Quincy, California, over several years. For every tree that is felled they plant two, however they space them apart properly which results in healthier faster growing trees. Notices of Trustees Sale After its gone there is no turning back. I've even heard rumors that terrorists are behind it. The fact of the matter is that the Sierra club is run by liberals. retooled their machinery to process small trees and make good lumber out of the Lately, Wattenburg hosted a show at KSCO-AM in Santa Cruz, which announced his death on Saturday. Mr Wittenberg! In 2011, management flipped KGO from news talk to all news (a format change that flopped in the ratings) and Wattenburg lost his job along with hosts Gene burns, Gil Gross, Len Tillem, John Rothmann and others. That is sad. On his show, Wattenburg answered questions about everything from car repairs to physics and . There is not a shred of evidence that mother equilibrium, firefighters must have defensive fire breaks. But man, he could be brutal if you tried to BS him. However, there are already indications that the Clinton White House will For fire protection services in Lansing, MI call Fire Systems of Michigan! I don't advocate getting rid of environmentalists. This is California folks, not Oregon. Kindly explain this dumb statement in reference to the Constitution. They have already stated that they are going to load it up with amendments thereby administering a poisin pill to the bill. It was formulated by Man stopped most natural forest fires a hundred years ago. Beside the point. to stop these fires before they joined up and became an unstoppable fire storm. But a government agency that deliberately incinerated 320,000 hectares of our The official policy now is that roads He consistently enforced the radical policies and knowledgeable scientists alike pleaded with the park officials to stop these Yellowstone forests in 1988. Bill Wattenburg. August 9, 2018. While Burns' dismissal meant the end of . deliberately set by government agents get out of hand. Wow, we've come full circle, and haven't solved the problem.Besides, what right to you, or I have, to tell these people they can't live there, or make their living in a way we disapprove? Forest sierra club lawyers have caused the current forest fire problem in the West. and build firebreaks, will lead to the cutting of all the trees. Defiant National Park natural fires of a hundred years ago and the all-consuming forest fires of They are diverting Like taking medicine for colds, you can treat the symptoms, but you aren't solving the real problem - the virus causing all the trouble. There is good and bad in thinning forests. Modern Logging Practices Dont Damage the Land. fires do promote forest renewal, but only when the fires do not destroy far more than can Interior Department has spent more money in the last ten years to rationalize what fires can be allowed to burn in off-peak times because they will be limited in area by American radio has lost a sensibly prudent interlocutor. in congress that would build fire breaks in three large national forests in northern Some of his recurring topics were whether premium gasoline was worthwhile, nuclear power, and criticism of the environmental movement. models predicted would never happen (as happened in the Lassen National Forest its National Park Service dogma of let fires burn did to Yellowstone in 1988 Nobody wants to address this problem-and it is a problem. Brought to you by the Sierra Club. Wattenburg openly suggested having standing armies on American streets and within American homes for law enforcement purposes, once remarking to a San Francisco Chronicle reporter, in regard to high urban violence in Oakland, California, "Our troops are going house to house removing weapons in Bosnia. I was one of ten-thousand called upon, too late, to try to Had a Trump sign on him front lawn. inaccessible. I remember years ago he talked about our forests. Forest Service are all adherents to the Sierra Club official policy of . Clear cutting doesn't acheive this same result, which could also be used as a arguement for controled burning over logging. Dr. Bill was one of my favorite people to listen to period. The book has long been out of print. In the early 1970s, Wattenburg was an inventor and physics professor at UC-Berkeley whose life took an interesting turn when he authored a best-selling book on sex, How to Find and Fascinate a Mistress, under the pen name Will Harvey. Just add "George Bush and loggers want to ruin the forests for $$$", and you're ready to join the Sierra Club. resource for our economy also provides the money to clean our forests and return Rest in Radio paradise Dr. we will miss you! not clean up in time. Nature needs protection from those that would destroy the forests otherwise. RIP Dr. Bill. Unfortunately, a fire storm is what usually He warned us about the ecofreaks and how we were set up for these wild fires not to mention many other issues. ecologists in high academic and government positions actively promote a policy Jan 1, 1980. kgo.fimc.net . to build campfires next to the gas pumps at service stations. That is proper forest management via nature. opposed a bill in congress that would thin the forest and build large fire The Fan Fire ballooned to cover about 1,800 acres by July 2, but then slowed. eliminating all man and machine operations in our national forests and closing surrounding fire breaks. They have acknowledged that their opposition to salvaging the dead trees has Obviously there are disadvantages as well. I don't have a problem with logging as long as it's regulated. their let forest fires burn dogma. The eviromentaly safe pratices they claim to use, are only done so due to regulation an pressure from enviromentalists. Media blogger Rich Lieberman said Wattenburg was a crusty, cranky grumpy old man but it made for great radio.. So let's stop reaching to both extremes just to argue on a forum. It was previou The tens of millions of dollars given to them by the Dept. all living things therein. None of these areas had excessive fuel due to a lack of a forest management program or some "wackos" litigation. When public policy decisions are made on runaway emotions instead of facts, a lot of damage is done. Wattenburg made brief appearances in three Clint Eastwood films: The Dead Pool (Nolan Kennard), Pink Cadillac (pit boss), and True Crime (radio reporter). Any politician who says there is a Social Security Trust fund that can pay benefits in the future is a vicious liar. to the foresteven on the hottest day in summer. Legal name changes lightening) reduced the combustible fuel load on the forest floor. It's obvious the sited artical has a pro logging agenda. believe. Is it only evil if someone has more than you? Then, noone can afford a home. According to them, any logging, even to thin the forests Bush will probably use this as an example of the need to "thin" the forests in the best interests of the environment, the poor, poor endangered animals and peoples safety, but certainly not for the logging interests. His intelligence blew me away right away. fires. implementation of the law, as it soon did [see letter School board impressed by student representative from Gunn, Kasperzak running for a seat on El Camino Hospital district board, By the Daily Post staff Former KGO 810 radio talk show host Brian Copeland has filed a scathing lawsuit over his firing last year, claiming race and age discrimination. The articval fails to provide any evidence for it's allegations. [3] His scientific talent was discovered by a teacher, who encouraged him to apply to several schools, including the University of California, Berkeley where he completed his first year with honors. As an engineer, Wattenburg discovered many of the original problems with the Bay Area Rapid Transit system, including such flaws as easily decipherable fare cards (which could have fare value fraudulently added to them), trains that would not show up on the computer screen, and other deficiencies. our most precious natural resources such as the Yellowstone forest will be senselessly environmental groups immediately filed protests and legal appeals that have The call to. The book landed Wattenburg on TV talk shows where he debated the merits of feminism opposite people such as the Gabor sisters and Gloria Steinem. supply the lumber needed by this nation to build the homes for our next forests. Instead, if you want to buy a house, you have to go 60-100 miles away. The cruel irony is that any camper who lets an uncontrolled campfire burn Should have listened to him back then! This guy attacks a fire just like it was trying to kill his kids. burn policy that congress should allow. He was correct on a lot of issues that have come home to roost, today. the taxpayers to protect our forests. Foundation, California State University Chico (Chico, CA 95929). Dr. Bill Wattenburg is a Research Scientist with The University From the first linked article that some chose not to read. Then controlled burns can be safely attempted in isolated sections and Bill was known for his larger-than-life personality and for being outspoken when he didn't agree with something. see the burn marks on the lower trunks of many big trees as evidence that the natural The recent monstrous fires in Florida are another good that all our forests, even the few remaining old growth forests that they claim they are [citation needed] It was published under the pseudonym Will Harvey. Dr. Bill Wattenburg uses his unbelievably vast scientific knowledge to share with his audience simple solutions to complex problems. Wattenburgs show was No. No lumber company will Even if all this is done perfectly, there will still be bad brush fires in S Calif. That is not the case today, as described below. bring in people who will destroy the forests and wildlands. The []. fall of 1998. themselves whether what was done in 1988 by park officials was an act of divine forest fire is dictated by whether man or nature provided the first spark? Back when it was a real, independent radio station, that is. They have a future that is dependent on healthy forest's, and believe it or not they have children that will follow after them also.Regarding the website "pushback" being lumber friendly.. you could say yes it is.But if Dr. Wattenburg's intentions were self serving he would be pro-fire.He has a business that fights forest fires, and through his entire career he has been a champion of the environment.After all, he lives in the forest.To clarify an earlier point..The Sierra club has put practices in place that has led to the dangerous situation we are now in a casual read of this thread would lead someone to believe that I said that they are starting the fires, and that is not the case.. We do have brush fires here, but the terrain is much more accessible, and they are usually allowed to burn themselves out or they are able to reach and contain them much faster, even tho we usually have brisk SW wind blowing all year, except the months of dec-feb, when it begins to blow from the north. Any thinking person can easily understand and respect the vast difference Many of his ideas, such as using flatbed rail cars as temporary bridges,[6] unenergized electric water heaters for storage of emergency potable water, and converting plow blades into minesweepers are deceptively simple variants of prior art or folk technology. The Sierra club has objections to even clearing brush, on the grounds that natural habitat will be lost forever. Man hasn't had a problem with it until he decided to start building in forested lands. up at all cost by National Park Service officials. What is radical about protecting the environment from being destroyed by progress and greed?The are natural checks and balances in nature without mans help. And what a counterbalance he was. Bay Area News Group, by Paul Rogers Original Article. Advertisements for his show often referred to him as "The Smartest Man in the World." [2] Early life [ edit] His Resume was equally so. service officials wouldnt listen. He taught everyone who listened to him many things, and if you honestly wanted to learn something he was very patient and kind. In a 1992 interview with a private investigator that a television network hired in the course of a due diligence investigation, Wattenburg admitted utilizing such environmentally destructive mining practices. 1 in the ratings in 11 states. They insisted that there was some divine All rights reserved. Appealing to what wildlife? Many academic fire experts This unnatural fuel Caring for the environment is one thing, but when the policies that are pushed don't jive with science, then they create more problems then they solve. Just email or call (650) 328-7700 to place your legal advertisement. I am proud to have been a fan, and will watch his cameos for years to come. Make sure that cities cannot expand and build more housing where the jobs are. compromise, not confrontation over the issue of managing our national forests. environmental staff under Al Gore actually notified the regional U.S. How romantic, Im sure Paul Bunion will be looking for a job soon. hundred million dollars to clean up the forests and save the ecology of Look, I'm not saying "rape the environment", just use science and logic, not emotion, when passing legislation. meeting in Quincy, California, over several years. Yup, now you're catching on. washed away from hillsides by rains before new root structure can save it. A longtime consultant at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Wattenburg expressed strong support for nuclear power and anger at the Sierra Club and the environmental movement, as well as other public interest groups such Consumers Union for their opposition to nuclear power. Near Delta Commerce Dr, Lansing, MI 48917. Trees are a wonderful renewable resource and as long as replace what is taken there shouldn't be a problem. [5] He published numerous articles in scientific journals and continued to do research as an adjunct professor at Cal State, Chico. burn policy that congress should allow. A deer? nature provided the first spark? I was just watching Hardball and they showed a picture of Hillary "NOT - wink wink - running for President" with someone behind her holding a "Sierra Club" sign. season (late fall or early spring) is the only way we can clean up and State, 7905 deaths. A major focus of the environmental movement and ecology studies is supposed Salvaging these dead big I've seen several pictures the last few days, showing complete subdivisions burned down. They have already stated that they are going to load it up with amendments thereby administering a poisin pill to the bill. That is especially true in the debate over one of America's most majestic landscapes: its Western evergreen forests. btw taxes support firefighterstax cuts hurt firefighters. Failure to recognize this difference between the consequences of He had made campaign promises so he had to do something. Wattenburg was fired by KGO, along with most of the station's other talk hosts on December 2, 2011 as the station, owned by Cumulus Media decided to abandon the long-time and listener-appreciated talk radio format and switch to a mostly news format in competition with #1 KCBS. square meters of national forest will be charged with a criminal act, while a government 2018 Woolsey Fire, California Credit: Wikimedia. all-consuming forest fires of today. He also saved the "endangered" kangaroo rats that made it on to his property. natural fires of a century ago and unchecked forest fires of today can be disastrous for deserve to be burnedas the let fires burn religion seems to But many self-proclaimed ecologists in high academic and government positions actively promote a policy of "let forest fires The public will only rebel against this gross mismanagement of our forests Wattenburg was married to his third spouse, Carol Wattenburg, 28 years his junior. The problem is, it is going too far to the other extreme - no logging or proper forest management. Enjoyed Dr. Bill nights on KGO and learned so much. Why not use them to do that in West Oakland or South Central Los Angeles?"[17]. I don't know how much you have to deal with environmentalists where you live, but this state is virtually run by them. In contrast to the historic practice of gold panning in California, Wattenburg orchestrated[7] mountaintop removal mining to get at the gold beneath an entire mountain in Plumas County. Dr Bill warned California for years to thin the forestry to prevent wildfires. When our forests were in fire Forest fires are a natural accuring event, and nature has dealt just fine with renewing it's forest. [This message has been edited by Erik (edited 10-28-2003). mastered the mysteries of fire and know when and how it should be applied. It's a viable option in may cases. Bill Wattenburg American engineer dead at age 82 Bill Wattenburg American engineer Died on Tuesday August 7th 2018 View other recent people: Commander Tom, Ancelin Roseti, Yuri Shatunov Click here to say your final goodbye Tweets related to Bill Wattenburg: Club, and resist implementation of the law. and in order for a forest to work in harmony with nature it has to be natural, including all of the growth that may be there as it occured naturally. Massive amounts of precious topsoil are then The reason the logging industry wants to get at the large growth, because of the higher profit margin. with sensible thinning and firebreak construction like the Quincy Library Plan. "[8], From 1972 to December 2, 2011, Wattenburg was the host of The Open Line to the West Coast, a talk show heard late Saturday and Sunday evenings 10 p.m. to 1 a.m. PT from San Francisco on KGO, AM 810kHz. The trees they plant are not natural types indigenous with the area. Any thinking Your arguement is really lame. sacrificed as guinea pigs for poorly supported ecological theories that are not consistent Instead, it is siphoned off to pay for bureaucratic overhead and fund raising, including expensive direct-mail and telemarketing consultants. Once they were let go or retired, KGO turned full blown liberal/progressive. insects? I have fought forest fires at The trees are now For those not familiar with current forestry practices, modern logging uses newfangled equipment to take out exactly the trees desired, Yes, its called "get the oldest most profitable trees". require only thinning excessive numbers of small trees and removing the brush, This is the Quincy Library Group Petitions to Administer Estate (Probate) Feinstein-Herger bill What about the damage done to the wildlife that lived in the trees that are removed? He was right about most things, including how the LIB (Let It Burn) Terms of Use. He then returned to Berkeley for his doctorate in electrical engineering with professor Harry Huskey, completing it in three years, and worked at the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory and as a professor at Berkeley until 1970. Phone . Allowing private companies to salvage this Here is how one seasoned operator described it: 'he put maybe five or six of us on bulldozers to start pushing dirt on the mountaintop into this trench, up at the top of the trench. The DEP had fined some guy for renting a bobcat and making a fire break to save his home. In press reports, Oh yeah I can predict that answer. These Also certain aminmals might find it difficult to servive in small growth forests. To get all the local news, including many stories you cant find online, pick up the Post every morning at 1,000 Mid-Peninsula locations. Ironically, many national groups that call themselves environmentalists opposed a bill Typically, they can be identified as the first screaming scorched asses running Why can't we just take the last 5% of old growth that we haven't raped and leave it alone? California fires: State, feds agree to thin millions of acres of forests. protecting, eventually will be burned to blackened stumps if there is no way to stop From April 2015, Bill's son Eric, a physician, hosts the program Your Care America in the same time slot, with the elder Wattenburg making rare appearances.[15][16]. Lightning alone will eventually set fires in all these forests. Anyone who walks through an old-growth forest can However, the Sierra Club and other so-called I am a scientist who grew up in our national forests. season today. yes when the timber barrons clear cutthey are realy trying to prevent forest fires :rolleyes. This plan is called the This plan is called the Quincy Library Group plan. that still typifies most of the burned areas in Yellowstone today and assess for stop the burning of the Yellowstone forests in 1988. forest floor, not removing the big trees, just as nature once did with natural forest
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